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I know that ModBargains sells their Accessport at an unadvertised discount, but are there any other places that do so? Especially somewhere outside of California, so I might save on sales tax as well?
You can always forks over the average 500 and get a better OTS tune than the Cobb. Freektune(Cali), panda motorworks(Missouri), maperformance(Minnesota), all sell the AP with their own tune.
The problem is that most of the tuners will not sell a custom tune to you unless you bought the AP from their shop.
This is why I said you need to choose the tuner first.
Again the AP is only the tool.
If you are going to use the OTC tunes then an AP from anywhere is OK.
I agree with Dave. Research the pro-tuner that you are interested in using and then buy the AP3 through them for whatever tuning deal they have. I bought a used AP3 and then paid for a pro-tune and it cost more altogether than if I would have just bought the AP3 from them.
The problem is that most of the tuners will not sell a custom tune to you unless you bought the AP from their shop.
This is why I said you need to choose the tuner first.
Again the AP is only the tool.
If you are going to use the OTC tunes then an AP from anywhere is OK.
But... many of them will do e-tunes or pro tunes even if you don't buy the AP from them. I've had awesome success with MAPerformance. I bought my AP from Cobb and am almost done with my e-tune from Adam @ Modern Automotive Performance. It's not cheap but it is well worth it!
Exactly. It's a trade off, higher upfront cost with a better quality tune, or lower upfront cost and pay later for a tune.
just like [MENTION=241]pelotonracer2[/MENTION], I'm finishing up my e-tune with Adam [MENTION=3178]maperformance[/MENTION].com. The difference his custom tune versus Cobb's OTS is absolutely staggering. I had no idea I could be achieving these kinds of results with just a tune.
I felt the same with my Freektune and everyone else with a custom tune feels the same regardless of their tuner choice. Cobb OTS tunes are a good start point but there is always plenty left on the table.
Inevitably there will be someone that evaluates multiple tunes on their own vehicle to give us a good idea of where each tuner stacks up comparatively on the platform, but I don't recall seeing that happen in this community yet.
I felt the same with my Freektune and everyone else with a custom tune feels the same regardless of their tuner choice. Cobb OTS tunes are a good start point but there is always plenty left on the table.
Inevitably there will be someone that evaluates multiple tunes on their own vehicle to give us a good idea of where each tuner stacks up comparatively on the platform, but I don't recall seeing that happen in this community yet.
Last year, around July I believe, I was tuning with both Mountune and Panda. So I have logs on my stock turbo of (at least) Stage 3 with the Cobb OTS, Mountune and Panda. I'd have to wade through them (and receipt dates which I also have) to recall whose parts I had on at the time/date of the datalogs. Would that be interesting enough for a post?
I could be wrong but I don't know anyone who is selling a Cobb AP V3 with a custom pro or e-tune thrown in "for free". I know they sell them with a better tune than OTS but not a custom tune for your exact mods.
Having different tunes in one car for evaluation would be great except they would have to be current.
For example I have a new current custom tune from Randy at Montune and it is far superior to the custom tune I had from him before.
Having different tunes in one car for evaluation would be great except they would have to be current.
For example I have a new current custom tune from Randy at Montune and it is far superior to the custom tune I had from him before.
I could be wrong but I don't know anyone who is selling a Cobb AP V3 with a custom pro or e-tune thrown in "for free". I know they sell them with a better tune than OTS but not a custom tune for your exact mods.
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