What did you do to your Fiesta ST today ?

[Kip2MyLou]

30whp, lol. I'm the only one breaking parts because I'm one of like 3-4 people I know that goto the track to run faster than 14.8. And one of the guys sold his car after the clutch was giving up on drag radials.

Like i said... If ford was to hand you a bill for $800 on a HPFP that failed because you increased the load on it by 12%, you'd get a feel for how i feel about it. Me personally, I felt they should have replaced it. Its not a big turbo 300whp car. Its 12 months old. It has 22k miles.

The Fist isn't the only car built like this... Srt4's do the samething. They shear motor mount bolts. Camaro SS's bend read control arms BONE STOCK at the track.

Its not the end of the world. 45 minutes, $160 axle and its done. But... I just feel like when a company ( any company ) sells a performance car, they should fix it if it breaks while "performing", lol. Like the first GT-R's that ate transaxles from using the factory launch control, and nissan denied those claims as well, lol. $25k trans, broke using factory launch control.

I'm actually disappointed with the dealer/techs more than ford. The real issue is warranty pay vs customer pay. And "Carlos" didn't want to it and make reasonable money, they wanted to make customer pay. They were REALLY QUICK to offer to do the work for only $145. Basically $145 an hour.

Did I mention that the ford dealers can't get the cv axle until after New years ? That means the car sits until Jan and they'd be paying for a rental.

Just letting you guys know what to expect, I was told Ford requires pictures of every part of the car emailed to them to get approved for warranty work. A downpipe, an intercooler, and I'm sure an air intake would have made their mind up, if the techs being pussys and scared to work on a fwd turbo car didn't make up there mind before they even pulled it in.

Guess we should all be corvette guys and drive around doing 40mph in 50mph zones in fear of voiding our warranties for asking the performance car to.... Perform.

I feel you. Mine is kinda off topic but I can say the same things about the tech stuff. My clutch wasn't looked at by an expert and they said all STs make it. I hopped in a Focus ST tonight while at the dealership and nothing. Perfectly smooth clutch like it's suppose to be.

I left the car there. I'm getting this problem fixed.

 

[Tokendog]

30whp, lol. I'm the only one breaking parts because I'm one of like 3-4 people I know that goto the track to run faster than 14.8. And one of the guys sold his car after the clutch was giving up on drag radials.

Like i said... If ford was to hand you a bill for $800 on a HPFP that failed because you increased the load on it by 12%, you'd get a feel for how i feel about it. Me personally, I felt they should have replaced it. Its not a big turbo 300whp car. Its 12 months old. It has 22k miles.

The Fist isn't the only car built like this... Srt4's do the samething. They shear motor mount bolts. Camaro SS's bend read control arms BONE STOCK at the track.

Its not the end of the world. 45 minutes, $160 axle and its done. But... I just feel like when a company ( any company ) sells a performance car, they should fix it if it breaks while "performing", lol. Like the first GT-R's that ate transaxles from using the factory launch control, and nissan denied those claims as well, lol. $25k trans, broke using factory launch control.

I'm actually disappointed with the dealer/techs more than ford. The real issue is warranty pay vs customer pay. And "Carlos" didn't want to it and make reasonable money, they wanted to make customer pay. They were REALLY QUICK to offer to do the work for only $145. Basically $145 an hour.

Did I mention that the ford dealers can't get the cv axle until after New years ? That means the car sits until Jan and they'd be paying for a rental.

Just letting you guys know what to expect, I was told Ford requires pictures of every part of the car emailed to them to get approved for warranty work. A downpipe, an intercooler, and I'm sure an air intake would have made their mind up, if the techs being pussys and scared to work on a fwd turbo car didn't make up there mind before they even pulled it in.

Guess we should all be corvette guys and drive around doing 40mph in 50mph zones in fear of voiding our warranties for asking the performance car to.... Perform.

Only problem here is the examples you provided you even stated that they did it stock. Your car isn't stock and it's breaking...so if in your example, performance cars are breaking stock, why would you expect a less expensive performance car not to break as well, when modified?

Sorry, I agree 100% with wanting and expecting something to be over-built, but I'm not a CEO of a huge company that is focusing on the $$$$$$$. I'm on the opposite side of it. I'm focusing on my $$$ and what I get in return for it. CEOs of companies are not. They want to make something as inexpensive as possible to get the biggest return on investment - and not all returns are measured in $$$$, before someone chimes in with another variable that is unnecessary in this specific conversation.

Every review I've read says the Fiesta ST is a crackin car with a awesome package at an amazing price, it's the price to performance ratio that makes it stand out amongst the bigger more expensive cars, no? And where did you think the catch was? Did you really think this car came without a catch?

And again, from what little I know of you and have seen from your post (absolutely no disrespect intended), you like to push cars to the edges to see what they can do, what can be squeezed out of them, and I think that is awesome. It's what pushes after market performance forward...and I applaud you for having the testicular fortitude to do so, but I am not shocked in the least when something you are messing with breaks... nor am I shocked when you state that Ford declined your repair.

Again, no disrespect intended. I actually have a lot of respect for you and what you are getting out of the car. And I'd like to say your beliefs about what you should get in a car are not unrealistic, but that's a matter of perspective, and unfortunately the CEO and Co. of Ford get to decide that (or any car company for that matter), and not us. At least not entirely.

 

[Sourskittle]

Its not a V8 mustang. Its not a NA F-150. They have very little interest in working on it.

I said 4 years ago, "I love the fact ford is bringing all these turbocharged motors out, I just hope they have the Techs ready to work on them, because if not. Its going to be a poor customer service issue". My friends Focus ST was bone stock and 1 week into owning this $30k focus, he asked me to ride in it, it felt slow. I rode in it and said, "its a boost leak, either the bov diaphragm is ripped or a charge pipe is ripped/leaking".

He took it to two different ford Dealers here in central florida and neither could figure out what was wrong with it. He finally took it to a dealer towards Miami and they found the issue was a ripped charge pipe right off the turbo. I mean.... It was RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE. He sent me a pic on his cell phone. It was obvious. He brought it back to my neck of the woods and took it to a 4th local dealer to order the parts. He TOLD THEM WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS AND SHOWED THEM A PICTURE. After he left the dealership, they called him and said, "hey, we are looking under the car we don't know which pipe is leaking".

I wish I still had the picture. Like 45% of the coupler was ripped.

But I bet if you had an F150 that made a "bump" when you turned right going down hill in reverse with the headlights on "high beam" with the tail gate down, they could tell you what part to replace.

Sad fact is... Dealerships don't pay good tech enough money so they goto different industries ( waves and points at himself ).

 

[westcoaST]

Sourskittle, can you clean up the broken bits and take some photos of the fracture faces. I perform failure analyses for a living. I'd like to see the failed bits. Wash them in parts cleaner then take some pics. Thanks.

 

[Sourskittle]

Tokendog, no offense taken, lol. If I was making 300whp, I wouldn't have even taken it to the dealer. It really is opinion. Some people think BONE FACTORY STOCK is all that should be warrantied. And "black and white", that is true. But there is a "grey area" I think dealers and ford should look at. I wasn't asking for a motor. Wasn't asking for a trans. Wasn't asking for a new car. $160 axle and 1-hour of labor (aka $12-$18 per hour ) and i'd be whistling dixie, slapping ford on the back, parading about singing the praise of ford and how they stick behind their product and overbuild everything, and when they don't they fix it.... Instead...... Look what's happening. Over what??? Less than $200.

Ford couldn't buy the kind of praise I'd give them AND THIS DEALERSHIP for $200.

If it was a $1500 fix... Ok. I get it. But its a 12 month old car, 22k miles, and a $200 fix TOTAL.

Dodge actually denied my warranty on a cv axle BOOT, JUST THE BOOT, because I had water injection on the car ( which they called "nitrous" at he time". Lol. Then blamed the solid motor mount for THE BOOT RIPPING. Lol. $35 boot kit, and 1-1.5 hours of labor. Guess how many people I've told to stay away from that dealership....

Grey area.... Asking for a new motor after putting a ATP turbo on it? Not so much.

For all car builders, I wonder... What is so hard about building cars that don't wheel hop? My G35 did it too ( it just never broke, it was built in Japan ).

If i install a CAI and the motor gets hydro-locked. My fault.
If I install an ATP turbo and over power the rods. My fault.
If I run 6 amps and 16 subwoofers and the alternator dies. My fault.

If I add 15% more power and the car wheel hops its self to death... Grey area. That's all I'm saying , lol.

I add cooler charge air, better flowing exhaust, that means the cv axle fails? Lol. Come on....

People are free to dis-agree ( doesn't hurt my feelings guys, promise , lol ). Its just my opinion from Fords point of view, there should be a grey area, and from the tech's point of view doing a job and making the dealer some money should come before kicking it out the door because your either A) too lazy to do it on a Saturday or B) your not skilled enough to work on fwd turbo cars.

 

[dyn085]

30whp, lol. I'm the only one breaking parts because I'm one of like 3-4 people I know that goto the track to run faster than 14.8. And one of the guys sold his car after the clutch was giving up on drag radials.

Like i said... If ford was to hand you a bill for $800 on a HPFP that failed because you increased the load on it by 12%, you'd get a feel for how i feel about it. Me personally, I felt they should have replaced it. Its not a big turbo 300whp car. Its 12 months old. It has 22k miles.

The Fist isn't the only car built like this... Srt4's do the samething. They shear motor mount bolts. Camaro SS's bend read control arms BONE STOCK at the track.

Its not the end of the world. 45 minutes, $160 axle and its done. But... I just feel like when a company ( any company ) sells a performance car, they should fix it if it breaks while "performing", lol. Like the first GT-R's that ate transaxles from using the factory launch control, and nissan denied those claims as well, lol. $25k trans, broke using factory launch control.

I'm actually disappointed with the dealer/techs more than ford. The real issue is warranty pay vs customer pay. And "Carlos" didn't want to it and make reasonable money, they wanted to make customer pay. They were REALLY QUICK to offer to do the work for only $145. Basically $145 an hour.

Did I mention that the ford dealers can't get the cv axle until after New years ? That means the car sits until Jan and they'd be paying for a rental.

Just letting you guys know what to expect, I was told Ford requires pictures of every part of the car emailed to them to get approved for warranty work. A downpipe, an intercooler, and I'm sure an air intake would have made their mind up, if the techs being pussys and scared to work on a fwd turbo car didn't make up there mind before they even pulled it in.

Guess we should all be corvette guys and drive around doing 40mph in 50mph zones in fear of voiding our warranties for asking the performance car to.... Perform.

No matter what I say you will continue to try and pawn responsibility off on Ford. I run 13.4's in my FiST without any actual practice, and I wouldn't whine if Ford wouldn't warranty parts that I broke at the track. That's part of being a big-boy. They didn't say that their warranty would cover a car 'up to x-hp', and there are plenty of us running plenty of additional problem with zero issues. Quite honestly it sounds like driver error significantly more than it does faulty parts or excessive power.

Multiple failures on your vehicle don't mean that others should be scared to drive theirs; people should be smart enough to recognize the difference between a car that's abused from one that's 'performance' driven. People shouldn't be afraid to drive their cars, but they should heed caution when they're blatantly abusing it. And even though it's been said a million times already, don't be surprised if you modify your car and break something that Ford refuses to replace under warranty due to its relation to the mods.

As for what I did to my FiST today-it's parked. Not because it's broken, but because I'm driving the FoST this week. I miss the power and lightness of the FiST when I'm driving the FoST, but I don't miss the ride comfort (or lack thereof), steering wheel, or interior controls.

 

[Sourskittle]

Sourskittle, can you clean up the broken bits and take some photos of the fracture faces. I perform failure analyses for a living. I'd like to see the failed bits. Wash them in parts cleaner then take some pics. Thanks.

Yes sir. I'll take them to work tomorrow and run them through our parts washer and send you pics. As for me , I'm taking it to a driveshaft shop to inquire about building us (fiesta guys) an upgrade. Basically some else I can sell for a small market up if this becomes an on going issue as more and more fiesta guys start to go quicker and make more power. I get the feeling this will become an issue when more guys buy ATP kits.

If the wheel hop and can be stopped, this likely won't happen. But ONE REAR MOTOT MOUNT isn't going to cut it. The the lower control arms rubbery nature are not helping i'm sure.

 

[Sourskittle]

Dyno085 i don't remember you ever posting anything about going 13.40. I assume your on slicks though...

 

[westcoaST]

The person that makes the decision whether or not to fix your Fiesta ST is the service manager. With the right amount of scientific proof, you can get the dealer to repair your car, for that matter, even your insurance company. I had a 124 sport spider that got rear ended and several months later, the ring gear failed. I was only 17 at the time but was already quite skilled at performing failure analyses (I attended Don Bosco Technical Institute, Metallurgy) I convinced my insurance company that the failure of my ring gear initiated as a result of the rear end accident, and they covered my claim. I have been successful for several clients since then. Just because something breaks, it does not always mean the part was abused.

 

[Sourskittle]

Dyn085 your cute. Your the richest luckiest guy EVER because you have both ST's, lol. Your talented too... 13.40 with slicks, that's a real tough drive, lol.

Abuse... Maybe. Depending on what you expect from a car. Guess my standards were set too high by a dodge neon that cost $2k less than my Fist.

If I really was THAT heart broken over it, I'd be talking to a lawyer. Its a lame little CV axle. Its reasonably cheap, its easy to install, and I have to drive a turbocharged european car, a lexus, or a 400whp diesel truck until.... Dun dun dun !!!! Thursday !! Lol. I've got it handled. I just expected better.

 

[dyn085]

Dyno085 i don't remember you ever posting anything about going 13.40. I assume your on slicks though...

No, I don't have slicks. OEM tires and I wasn't even aired down. First pass in my life.

 

[Sourskittle]

What did you do to your Fiesta ST today?

No, I don't have slicks. I wasn't even aired down. First pass in my life.

Ok brah... Sure they didn't trick you into believing the 1/8th mile track was twice as long?

 

[dyn085]

Ok brah... Sure they didn't trick you into believing the 1/8th mile track was twice as long?

I'm sure because the Evo in the other lane was crossing the 1/4 when I was passing the 1/8.

Grow up. There was a time this site was better than this. I have no reason to lie because we're on the internet, will never meet, and I'm not trying to sell anything.

Edit: Wow, I was way wrong and have no clue as to why. I only ran a 14.5. As much as I want to blame it on alcohol, I'm actual stone-cold sober. My bad. I just found my pic of it in my phone.

 

[MKVIIST]

Bryan please save the dealer complaints to another thread. Keep this thread relevant to what you did today.

 

[Sourskittle]

Bryan please save the dealer complaints to another thread. Keep this thread relevant to what you did today.

No. Problem. I'm done whining, lol. But just to be a pain, I did pull the cv axle out of my car today, lol.

I kind of wanted to do a "how-to". But honestly, its so easy, I don't know that I can make it more complicated than "remove big bolt, take cv axle out, replace". Lol.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I drove 200+miles so I could pick up 21.8 gallons of E85 for tuning
Next closest pump is 10 more miles each way

 

[Sourskittle]

Installed the new CV axle, drained the trans fluid completely, cleaned up, and waiting to pour in the motul 300 when it gets here tomorrow.

 

[JPGC]

Installed my boomba wing risers

 

[BoostBumps]

Installed my boomba wing risers
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looks good! are those the red or black risers?

 

[JPGC]

They are black to go with the car's trim. Thanks!