Turbo Technics S280

[MagnetiseST]

what tuners are you guys using to tune your kits?

Also Mitch @ CP-E, absolutely love the tune.

 

[CarFanatic]

wow ok good to know. both you guys are using him.

 

[JDG]

are you running aux fuel?

Yes, go back a bit in the thread and check out my posts.

 

[Fusion Works]

Initially I am planning on having Adam at Tune+ live tune on my dyno, we shall see how that goes.

 

[CarFanatic]

I've bought most of my parts from adam, so very interested in your results

 

[Fusion Works]

It will probably closer to spring as the shop is slammed right now and I am sure there will be stupid little parts that keep me from just "installing" the kit. Knowing me I will want to change things a bit to the way I would do them. Also will need to build a down pipe while I have it apart. Plus I am going to put the exhaust manifold up in my mill and port that as well. See if I can gain something there.

May also have to break down and add a single port option to get just a wee bit more fuel, but I have concerns with that as well.

 

[CarFanatic]

I think 4 port is safer bet for sure.

 

[wetwea33]

I think 4 port is safer bet for sure.

Single port is plenty for this power level I have had no issues and all the tuners will tell you the same.

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[wetwea33]

It will probably closer to spring as the shop is slammed right now and I am sure there will be stupid little parts that keep me from just "installing" the kit. Knowing me I will want to change things a bit to the way I would do them. Also will need to build a down pipe while I have it apart. Plus I am going to put the exhaust manifold up in my mill and port that as well. See if I can gain something there.

May also have to break down and add a single port option to get just a wee bit more fuel, but I have concerns with that as well.

If you have access to e85 then definetly get aux. If not I would look into a meth setup.

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[JDG]

Single port is plenty for this power level I have had no issues and all the tuners will tell you the same.

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All tuners will definitely not tell you the same. Some may, but not all.

You are adamant about single port being just as safe as 4-port but I highly disagree. Won't muddy the waters in this thread but just figured the counterpoint should be out there with a bunch of newcomers joining this thread.

 

[CarFanatic]

I disagree too. single port no control over how much fuel goes to what cylinder......

 

[wetwea33]

I disagree too. single port no control over how much fuel goes to what cylinder......

Again, ask any tuner and they will say the same thing. You dint run into issues untill your flowing enough air to make well over 400whp to get uneven fuel distribution.

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[wetwea33]

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All tuners will definitely not tell you the same. Some may, but not all.

You are adamant about single port being just as safe as 4-port but I highly disagree. Won't muddy the waters in this thread but just figured the counterpoint should be out there with a bunch of newcomers joining this thread.

I never said it was as "safe" as a 4 port. I'm saying for under 380whp it's getting the job done all the same especially if your running pump or a blend. Full e85 would be different. Again what causes issues is the turbulence caused from higher flow in the intake ports.

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[JDG]

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I never said it was as "safe" as a 4 port. I'm saying for under 380whp it's getting the job done all the same especially if your running pump or a blend. Full e85 would be different. Again what causes issues is the turbulence caused from higher flow in the intake ports.

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Fair enough. I thought I remember you claiming that it was “just as safe”. Of which I would disagree.


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[wetwea33]

I never said it was as "safe" as a 4 port. I'm saying for under 380whp it's getting the job done all the same especially if your running pump or a blend. Full e85 would be different. Again what causes issues is the turbulence caused from higher flow in the intake ports.

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Fair enough. I thought I remember you claiming that it was “just as safe”. Of which I would disagree.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]At the power levels this turbo is capable of you will have no problems. Heck only one person I know of had issues with a single port but he was also making over 400whp on a bigger turbo. For a while the single port was the only aux option.

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[Fusion Works]

I don't have a huge desire to run E85. I know it can make power, but don't want to deal with the hassles of getting consistent clean E85 locally. I'll stick with regular 93oct. Also don't have any desire to run water/meth. If I do aux it will be for fuel only.

Yes I would have concerns flowing fuel through a manifold that was only designed to flow air. It will behave different. Without individual EGTs or individual 02s it would be hard to tell if your aux fuel is being properly distributed. I'm sure you can get by with a safeish tune, but without being able to make sure all four cylinders are getting the proper fuel mixture, I'm still hesitant to say single port is a good safe option over a four port.

My goal isn't 350+whp. I want more than what the car has now without ruining the character of the car. This is a fantastic backroad car, but gettting out run by Camrys, Minivans, etc is depressing. Coming from a 375whp S2000 the Fiesta is slow.

 

[wetwea33]

I don't have a huge desire to run E85. I know it can make power, but don't want to deal with the hassles of getting consistent clean E85 locally. I'll stick with regular 93oct. Also don't have any desire to run water/meth. If I do aux it will be for fuel only.

Yes I would have concerns flowing fuel through a manifold that was only designed to flow air. It will behave different. Without individual EGTs or individual 02s it would be hard to tell if your aux fuel is being properly distributed. I'm sure you can get by with a safeish tune, but without being able to make sure all four cylinders are getting the proper fuel mixture, I'm still hesitant to say single port is a good safe option over a four port.

My goal isn't 350+whp. I want more than what the car has now without ruining the character of the car. This is a fantastic backroad car, but gettting out run by Camrys, Minivans, etc is depressing. Coming from a 375whp S2000 the Fiesta is slow.

Welp find some real data or people with failures to back it up before making blank claims. If your not gonna run an ethanol mix aux isn't worth it. You won't make any more power with it on 93 as your octane limited by it. The e85 by me never fluctuated below e75.

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[JDG]

Welp find some real data or people with failures to back it up before making blank claims. If your not gonna run an ethanol mix aux isn't worth it. You won't make any more power with it on 93 as your octane limited by it. The e85 by me never fluctuated below e75.

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I saw 30 more hp on 93 with aux vs without aux on my gtx. I’m already seeing about 15 more hp with the aux enabled on the s280.


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[wetwea33]

I saw 30 more hp on 93 with aux vs without aux on my gtx. I’m already seeing about 15 more hp with the aux enabled on the s280.


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Vdyno tho [emoji2369] it depends how close ur tuner wants to push the limits of the stock fuel system too. Di cars actually like being leaned out to make power but of course that's at the cost of blowing shit up.

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[JDG]

Vdyno tho [emoji2369] it depends how close ur tuner wants to push the limits of the stock fuel system too. Di cars actually like being leaned out to make power but of course that's at the cost of blowing shit up.

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You are never wrong are you?


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