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Transmission Fluid Change
- Thread starter Sprinkle_Star
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God dammit....do any of you read whole threads or just skim....there are a lot of us who have pulled 2.0L out of their Transmissions when servicing it. I had my Transmission replaced at 27k ....took brand new fluid out...measured it....2.0L on the Nuts....They started to overfill them due to bearing Failure as per TSB according to A Ford Tech who put my Trans in.
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God dammit....do any of you read whole threads or just skim....there are a lot of us who have pulled 2.0L out of their Transmissions when servicing it. I had my Transmission replaced at 27k ....took brand new fluid out...measured it....2.0L on the Nuts....They started to overfill them due to bearing Failure as per TSB according to A Ford Tech who put my Trans in.
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According to the Service Manual's instructions, they aren't overfilling the transmissions. They're correcting the fill level.
The instructions state to fill to 1" below the fill hole... not only for the B6 transmission, but also the B5.
The 2.1L it takes to reach the 1" below fill hole, also coincides with the specification that is listed in that same manual, but for the B5 instead of the B6.
Bottom line, they're not overfilling to account for some defect, the 1.6L spec was simply incorrect.
For 2016 at least, they were going according to that incorrect spec, versus the refill instructions.
The instructions state to fill to 1" below the fill hole... not only for the B6 transmission, but also the B5.
The 2.1L it takes to reach the 1" below fill hole, also coincides with the specification that is listed in that same manual, but for the B5 instead of the B6.
Bottom line, they're not overfilling to account for some defect, the 1.6L spec was simply incorrect.
For 2016 at least, they were going according to that incorrect spec, versus the refill instructions.
The CURRENT formula/bottles of the Motul DCT fluid also FULLY fulfill the manual's Ford WSS 200-whatever spec as well as the semi-synthetic, and FULL synthetic Motorcraft DCTs, and yes, the unobtanium HERE Castrol brew.
Ford WOULD have a VERY HARD TIME proving that a fluid like the Ravenol MTF-2 (which being a GL-4 fluid is actually A LOT more heat and mechanically shear RESISTANT than ANY DCTF, protects the gears, sliders, synchros, and bearings MUCH better than any DCTF could, and is splitting hairs close in cSt @100*C viscosity to those DCTFs) actually caused a B6 transaxle failure.![[nono]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_nono.gif "No No [nono]")
I already 'chanced' the non-spec Motul Gear 300, so I will also take my chances on the Ravenol MTF-2 when I change to that in the coming weeks.![[wink]](/images/smilies/wink.gif "Wink [wink]")
Ford WOULD have a VERY HARD TIME proving that a fluid like the Ravenol MTF-2 (which being a GL-4 fluid is actually A LOT more heat and mechanically shear RESISTANT than ANY DCTF, protects the gears, sliders, synchros, and bearings MUCH better than any DCTF could, and is splitting hairs close in cSt @100*C viscosity to those DCTFs) actually caused a B6 transaxle failure.
I already 'chanced' the non-spec Motul Gear 300, so I will also take my chances on the Ravenol MTF-2 when I change to that in the coming weeks.
I have only 12.5k on my '17 but gonna go ahead go with MTF-2, have mild gear whine in 6th on the freeway and hopefully it will help... MTF-2 is 75w-80 and MTF-3 is straight 75w, but I trust the less additives of the MTL-2 GL-4... How is the MTF-2 working out for you?
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I use a CRC, or Amsoil pump/hose for my transaxle fluid installs, since it is much easier for me to do than removing the whole air box and such every time.
I would still have to jack up the front anyway in order to get the drain pan under there, so it does not even save that time/effort for me.
BTW; YES, I like this stuff much better than the Gear 300 (less 'notchy', much smoother in sub 50*F temps), although IF I were open tracking this thing in the heat of the southwest/Tejas every other weekend, I would use the Gear 300.
IF I knew it was going to be an unusually frigid winter (or IF I lived in International Falls or locales north of there), I am crazy enough to change this stuff out twice a year between the MTF-2 and MTF-3 Ravenol fluids.
I would still have to jack up the front anyway in order to get the drain pan under there, so it does not even save that time/effort for me.
BTW; YES, I like this stuff much better than the Gear 300 (less 'notchy', much smoother in sub 50*F temps), although IF I were open tracking this thing in the heat of the southwest/Tejas every other weekend, I would use the Gear 300.
IF I knew it was going to be an unusually frigid winter (or IF I lived in International Falls or locales north of there), I am crazy enough to change this stuff out twice a year between the MTF-2 and MTF-3 Ravenol fluids.
I use a CRC, or Amsoil pump/hose for my transaxle fluid installs, since it is much easier for me to do than removing the whole air box and such every time.
I would still have to jack up the front anyway in order to get the drain pan under there, so it does not even save that time/effort for me.
BTW; YES, I like this stuff much better than the Gear 300 (less 'notchy', much smoother in sub 50*F temps), although IF I were open tracking this thing in the heat of the southwest/Tejas every other weekend, I would use the Gear 300.
IF I knew it was going to be an unusually frigid winter (or IF I lived in International Falls or locales north of there), I am crazy enough to change this stuff out twice a year between the MTF-2 and MTF-3 Ravenol fluids.
I would still have to jack up the front anyway in order to get the drain pan under there, so it does not even save that time/effort for me.
BTW; YES, I like this stuff much better than the Gear 300 (less 'notchy', much smoother in sub 50*F temps), although IF I were open tracking this thing in the heat of the southwest/Tejas every other weekend, I would use the Gear 300.
IF I knew it was going to be an unusually frigid winter (or IF I lived in International Falls or locales north of there), I am crazy enough to change this stuff out twice a year between the MTF-2 and MTF-3 Ravenol fluids.
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