The Great Quest for Headlights

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Son, School is in session.

http://bfy.tw/1AZT

And if you don't believe all those search results, if you paid attention to previous posts, we have pictures:

LHD (US and most of the world):


See that bump off to the right (our passenger side)? It's to help illuminate roadside signs that are typically higher than your normal headlight beam cutoff.

Now, compare that to the same headlights, but in the RHD version used in the UK, Japan, (and most other former British commonwealth countries):


See how that bump is on their passenger side, to the left? Same reason, just different traffic directions.

Now, can you understand how RHD headlights on a LHD vehicle can blind oncoming drivers? I hope so.

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Pick it back up for a second. First, I don't believe everything I read on the web. If I did, then I would believe that our president is a terrorist and that we never landed on the moon.

Second, while I believe there are differences in the headlights I think that there is a possibility that the units I posted will work if adjusted properly. I like the examples you provided, however nether of the pictures are of a fiesta ( standard, ST, reflector or projector ). What you are basing your opinion on is speculation, not facts that directly pertaining to our cars.

Lastly, we're having a discussion here, so try not to get so personal.
 


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Trust me. It isn't speculation and it doesn't matter what car you use for comparison since headlights exist in all cars and not just the fiesta.

He's not voicing his opinion nor speculating since its a world known fact.

Research and try to hold an intelligent discussion. Leave the rambling bashing on Facebook.
 


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however nether of the pictures are of a fiesta ( standard, ST, reflector or projector ).
Yes they are. How do I know? the first picture is MY CAR. The second picture is from a UK member's Fiesta, you can tell by the hood shape and the simple fact he owns a Fiesta ST:

If this link works, this is a picture I took for the UK forum a little while ago;
http://i57.tinypic.com/2r2409h.jpg
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Yes they are. How do I know? the first picture is MY CAR. The second picture is from a UK member's Fiesta, you can tell by the hood shape and the simple fact he owns a Fiesta ST:



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I stand corrected. Why not lead with that info instead of "trust me"? I don't know why everybody gets so defensive when you ask simple questions. How is one expected to learn when the question get a hostile answer? Thanks for the info anyway.
 


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I stand corrected. Why not lead with that info instead of "trust me"? I don't know why everybody gets so defensive when you ask simple questions. How is one expected to learn when the question get a hostile answer? Thanks for the info anyway.
I never lead with "Trust me" in any of my posts. My original statement that offended you was:

UK headlights have a different (reverse) beam pattern for RHD cars. You'd be throwing extra light in the face of every oncoming vehicle in a LHD vehicle.
I find this VERY hard to believe. Where did you get this information?
 


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And as mentioned recently, putting a good HID kit (Morimoto) into the projector style headlights, isnt the best option either. As they did notice glare and not a perfect cut off. Picture is MUCH better than our factory lights, but still not optimal compared to a true retrofit.
 


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So a really good idea to find a spare set to send in for the retrofit.
This is what I am finding out on my end too. I would gladly send in my current headlights for the retro as my factory lights are in perfect condition and have clear bra on them. Even then though, seems tough to find a set of temps to use during the retro.
 


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Let me say that not all projectors are good for HIDs.
I have also had OE HIDs that were not projectors.
The complete headlight assembly must be specifically made for HIDs.
Because of the different shape of the HID bulb, the rear reflector of the assembly causes problems.

I have tried HIDs in the (LHD) Euro, projector style, Fiesta headlights and they still don't work well.



BTW, although I do believe that the US did go to and land on the moon.
I do believe our current president IS a terrorist.
But that is for a different forum



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Dave - were you the one planning on retrofitting the MINI H1 setup into your lights or was that someone else?
 


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It must have been someone else.
I have the Ford Euro set.



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I think I'm going to get the black RH headlights from Germany. They will look really good. I do wish they were "projectors", but I can't find any anywhere that fit the '14+ STs.
 


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I think I'm going to get the black RH headlights from Germany. They will look really good. I do wish they were "projectors", but I can't find any anywhere that fit the '14+ STs.
I know they are not black but are these what you are looking for?
They are for Germany (LHD) and they are projectors.






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You can mod the "squirrel finder" to make them more acceptable for HID use. You might have to crack them open to do this, or if it's weak enough just reach through the bulb opening and bend them down.
 


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If anyone is after Euro projectors, there are two versions in case people were confused. The ST and the 'Titanium' have a projector that have the DRL led strip. The models below have a projector that does not have the LEDs and may be cheaper for you. They have a DRL in the form of a twin filament main beam bulb.

As I have said earlier though, even the Euro projectors aren't that great for HID. To avoid wasting money if you want to go down the HID route, I'd say spend it on a retrofit. If you plan on staying halogen (and there are some great halogens out there) then maybe one of the Euro lights would suit you.

In addition, there have been plenty of UK ST owners who have split their lights to paint them various colours. I must admit, black looks awesome and I plan on this when install new projectors. From what I gather, you can heat them gently in your oven and then seperate them with a butter knife or similar, whilst being careful. They can be bonded back together and sealed properly to avoid condensation.

I hope I'm being helpful and shedding some light on what we have over here :)

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I know they are not black but are these what you are looking for?
They are for Germany (LHD) and they are projectors.






Dave
Yes, but with black housings. Who did you get yours through? Cost?
 


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