Schroth Quik Fit

[Siestarider]

Motorstate posted his experience with adding a Schroth Quik-Fit harness under Interior Mods part of Forum. Great review, but I believe the discussion belongs here rather than where it is now. To me, main purpose of harness is to hold you in stock seat with no sliding around or using steering wheel for leverage when you want to run 10/10ths, ie tracking for me.

I ordered the cheapie no frills version, 4 pt harness ties to existing front and rear seat belt fasteners. Had to search my parts bin for rear OEM belt buckles as I deleted my rear seats first thing, never even sat in them. My rear bed is two piece, press fit. So just pull the front section out of car and all the hardware is exposed for fitting the Schroth harness.

I set it up, played around with belt tension, it can be set tight enough to prevent any sliding around in stock seats, comfortable too. Tried it first time at Sebring. Worked great, easy on and off, completely different feel compared to stock 3 pt harness, you feel properly strapped in and forget about it focus on driving.

I am confident that part of taking 10 sec off my prior PB was the secure seating. Plus I no longer want a more form fitting seat, standard seat with lumbar is great for DD, now it great for tracking too with Schroth.

After tracking, I just pulled harness back through head rest gap, stuffed it into a plastic bag, and left it under front part of bed. I have a fire extinguished I am going to mount beneath bed so its within a right hand reach when tracking, set it up for access when front part of bed is removed to expose Schroth.

Plus pulling out the front end of bed removes another 20 lbs for track days. Thanks Motorstate for bringing this up. Hopefully others tracking will find the thread here. Oh, I read all the safety theory etc and have no qualms with Schroth 4 pt and stock air bags should the worst happen.

 

[RAAMaudio]

Great review, they are the only safe multi point harness you can use on the street and track as well without a roll bar and the only DOT approved harness for street use and work great on track. I have had 3 point and 4 point setups and will be running the QF either regular as you are doing but considering the Pro and getting a NexGen which is a safe combo as well.

They are engineered to work with this car, air bags, mounting points, etc, no harness bar needed(many sanctioning bodies do not allow harness bars and race harnesses for good reason) and the car has very good roll over protection as part of the design.

They certainly can help you drive faster as well, likely part of why your a great deal faster this time out but of course your other mods and experience all added up, 10 seconds is a dramatic improvement to say the least

 

[CuteManlet]

Link to where you bought it from?

 

[Siestarider]

Link to where you bought it from?

I believe I ordered it direct from Schroth, just googled them, found a black set, ordered. I looked in my old emails but must have deleted the shipping mail after it came in.

 

[Siestarider]

They certainly can help you drive faster as well, likely part of why your a great deal faster this time out but of course your other mods and experience all added up, 10 seconds is a dramatic improvement to say the least[/QUOTE]

Laughing. Sebring is a dramatic track. Working up toward the limits in turns 1 and 17 is a lot of it, plus the Rival S worked better than SC-2's. Plus harness, plus more seat time. As I get quicker I am developing a prejudice against miatas and bmw's who are stingy with point by's. Oh well, not like I am driving a pure sports car. Or pure sports sedan. Just pure fun.

 

[BRGT350]

I started using Schroth harnesses (4-point with ASM technology) in my Mustang back in 1996 and again in my 2000 Focus ZX3. They were easy to install, comfortable, and worked great for autocrossing and driving on the street. Takata now makes a similar set of harnesses that have the ASM section on the shoulder harness, just like the Schroth. I did run into static from different organizers at HPDE events about the Schroth belts and how they would not allow the car on track with them. I eventually moved to a racing seat and 5-point belt and roll bar in my Mustang to get out of the problem. I never had any issues at autocrosses.

 

[Siestarider]

NASA is so far the most strict Tracking group I have run with, and they seemed to like the Schroth. But if someone insists, its easy to unplug Schroth and pull stock 3 pt harness on. If one can believe all the Schroth paperwork, its approved by everyone who counts, as long as its the model made for your specific car.

 

[meFiSTo]

NASA is so far the most strict Tracking group I have run with, and they seemed to like the Schroth. But if someone insists, its easy to unplug Schroth and pull stock 3 pt harness on. If one can believe all the Schroth paperwork, its approved by everyone who counts, as long as its the model made for your specific car.

I just got these as well and had planned to use them this weekend, but due to an injury there will be a slight delay in testing them.

I'd suggest just checking with organizers, but everyone I've pinged near to me has agreed to allow them. Audi (and probably others) require "equal restraints" for checkout rides with their instructors, but once that's done, they can come out for the passenger seat (not that it matters one way or the other). Love that they plug in and out so easily.

I got the version with the HANS-sized (skinny) shoulder belts. The one thing I'd recommend is making sure there is sufficient slack to allow adjusting the lap belt to be very secure across your hips before cinching the shoulder belts. With no 5th/6th belt attachment, the lap belt could ride up a little if there is any slack, which is not what you want in a sudden braking/collision situation.

 

[M-Sport fan]

I know it's an old thread, but I was just curious;

These are NOT the DOT/NHSTA legal, Profi 2 ASMs everyone is talking about here, but an autocross type belt with the ASM feature, and retractable rear strap sort of like the original Schroth deals I had in my A2 16V GTI way back in the day (regular factory seat belt type square buckle, vs. a cam lock type release with a center push button instead of an FIA type dial lever release)??

 

[meFiSTo]

I know it's an old thread, but I was just curious;

These are NOT the DOT/NHSTA legal, Profi 2 ASMs everyone is talking about here, but an autocross type belt with the ASM feature, and retractable rear strap sort of like the original Schroth deals I had in my A2 16V GTI way back in the day (regular factory seat belt type square buckle, vs. a cam lock type release with a center push button instead of an FIA type dial lever release)??

If you are asking if your understanding is correct, I think it is. The Schroth Racing site does NOT claim that the Quick Fit Pro harnesses are DOT-approved, while they do claim that for the Rallye 4- and 3- ASM harnesses. I do find these to be as handy as possible for such products in terms of installing them for a track day onsite. I don't drive around town with them.

Description here: https://www.schrothracing.com/products/quickfit#3317

 

[Original J-Pat]

I would invest in some Takata's for aesthetics.

 

[Motorstate]

I know the website does not say they are DOT Legal but the catalog does. I have spoken to Schroth reps several times and both quickfit harnesses are 100% DOT and street legal. Here's a link to my review if it helps anyone on the fence:
http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/8216-Schroth-QuickFit-Pro-Harness-First-Impressions

I just used them all weekend at Gingerman and they worked perfectly. Driver fatigue is decreased greatly when you use these. I found I was able to concentrate on the track and my lines much more than before. I would not hesitate to buy a set of these again.

 

[M-Sport fan]

If you are asking if your understanding is correct, I think it is. The Schroth Racing site does NOT claim that the Quick Fit Pro harnesses are DOT-approved, while they do claim that for the Rallye 4- and 3- ASM harnesses. I do find these to be as handy as possible for such products in terms of installing them for a track day onsite. I don't drive around town with them.

Description here: https://www.schrothracing.com/products/quickfit#3317

OK, thanks!

Yes, I believe I had the 'Rallye' labelled set up in my GTI, but it was a L-O-N-G time ago, so I forgot.

The Profi 2s might even be legal for NASA HPDE/open track events, since they are a full on race harness as far as belting goes, they are just not FIA homolagated due to their one push button release (<- I THINK??).

I don't see HOW, but Schroth claims they are DOT/NHSTA street legal due to said one release push button lock.
I guess anyone using them on the street has to carry around that certification to show the LEOs stopping them?!

 

[meFiSTo]

I know the website does not say they are DOT Legal but the catalog does. I have spoken to Schroth reps several times and both quickfit harnesses are 100% DOT and street legal. Here's a link to my review if it helps anyone on the fence:
http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/8216-Schroth-QuickFit-Pro-Harness-First-Impressions

I just used them all weekend at Gingerman and they worked perfectly. Driver fatigue is decreased greatly when you use these. I found I was able to concentrate on the track and my lines much more than before. I would not hesitate to buy a set of these again.

I have a HANS and if I want to use it, I pretty much have to use these. Works great together from a fit perspective and I just pray all the bits play together as advertised in a serious upset.

As for fatigue, I've been able to also do the autocross thing with my stock belts as an alternative (lean/push seat back, tighten up belt, hold and return to driving position). It's not easy to do, but once set, works great as well. If I don't feel like donning the HANS, stapping down, etc. it's a good alternative. I can also use my older, open-face, non-HANS helmet (if the organizer lets me). It's a pristine SA2000 Arai GP-Jet2, but some groups are sticklers for currency of helmet. It is SO much lighter than my new full-faced helmet.