Hey folks,
I installed my pulley today and here are some thoughts.
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PRODUCT LINK
http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Pumaspeed-Racing-Fiesta-ST180-Uprated-Pulley_17810.jsp
When I ordered a week or so ago, there was no option for a larger belt, but I checked the link today and I see they have added it. Good job Pumaspeed. Last week I asked the Puma people and they said some were using a larger 1583mm belt but that the stock belt would work and it would stretch. However it will not stretch unless you roll the belt onto the pulley which I did not want to do. It would be extremely tight; even with the tensioner maxed out there is still several mm of room needed to stretch the belt on. Fortunately I thought of this in advance and ordered one, my buddy Daniel aka [MENTION=4142]SwAp GaS[/MENTION] scored me a larger Ford belt which fit perfectly. So make sure you get one. The one you want is pictured below, it is 1577mm, P/N JK6626. Not sure if that's the same thing Puma is offering as an add-on, they don't give a part number or size....but the one I got is perfecto.
BELT LINK
https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-JK6626-V-Belt/dp/B00J5BYKQK
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INSTALL
Not to difficult, there are a few things to consider but not bad. You'll need...
* pulley
* 1577mm belt JK6626
* flathead screwdriver
* 10mm ratcheting wrench
* 18mm wrench
* tensioner tool or make your own (not sure what the size was)
* pry bar
1. Get car in the air
2. Remove wheel
3. Using flathead screwdriver remove 2 bolts holding belt cover on (T25 I think but flathead was quicker), remove cover
4. Using 10mm wrench, loosen 4 bolts holding pulley just a bit...you can use the 18mm to turn the crank pulley as you go which will turn the water pump pulley you're replacing...this way the bolts are closer to you for easy access
5. Pull tensioner toward front of car, loosen belt from pulley of choice
6. Using 10mm wrench, remove 4 pulley bolts completely
7. Pulley will not come out, too little clearance, so say a curse word or make one up if you don't curse
8. Use pry bar on the bolt that holds the crank pulley in (easy to access spot) to pry engine a few mm to the driver's side of the car
9. At the same time you're doing #8, wiggle the pulley out the top - good luck doing this with one person, it is possible though, or there might be other ways to do this...
10. Now repeat step 8, install new pulley, tighten 4 bolts
11. Fit new belt loosely and make sure of correct route, pull tensioner again, slip new belt on, release tensioner, double check for correct placement on all pulleys
12. Double check that all 4 bolts are nice and tight
13. RE-install belt cover and wheel
14. Start car and make sure all is well and pulley isn't wobbly or wonky
15. Smile you are now finished good job
The only other thing I'd say about the install is that if you have solid mounts you're going to have to think of a strategy to loosen them or something because I don't think you can move the engine as needed in steps #7-10 if you have solid mounts (the two accessible from the engine bay). I have stock mounts with inserts so my engine moved no problem...
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PICTURES
Pic of email from Puma:
Here's the belt you need along with a pic of the pulley:
OEM pulley measured:
New pulley measured:
A tale of two pulleys:
Pulleys spooning:
Light shining on tensioner:
Pulley off:
Belt diagram, handy to have:
Installed:
This pic shows that there is margin on both sides:
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THOUGHTS ABOUT PUMASPEED
One thing I need to say here is that I'm slightly perturbed at Puma and here is why...along with my pulley I ordered 2 shirts. They sent me only one shirt, it was the wrong shirt and the wrong size. So I asked for the correct shirts, but instead they offered a refund. No problem, I can do without Puma shirts. But when they refunded me they only refunded me for the price of the shirts, not the shipping. Now, if you go into their order menu, each item you add adds shipping cost, and the shirts are a good portion of it because everything else I ordered was small but they had to send a bigger box to accommodate the shirt which should have been shirts. Naturally, I should be refunded the shipping required for the shirts, but they did not do that. I e-mailed them and requested for more of a refund and we will see what they say. If they do the right thing I will update here, otherwise I'm filing a claim with Paypal to get my shipping money refunded.
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IMPRESSIONS
I've only driven about 30 miles so I may have more thoughts to share later. But first thoughts are that this probably speeds up spool by maybe 10-15%. It's not like "OMFG MOAR POWER!!!!" or anything, but I do feel a small difference. I've done lightweight pulleys on other cars and there is a certain feeling it has with lightweight pulleys, I can't describe it but it's true. Torque-wise it feels like a high-flow panel filter was added or maybe like the A/C was on and then it was turned off and some power was freed up. Nothing crazy but it's a bit. Pretty much what I was expecting.
So it's not a must-do mod but for the price it's cheap and easy to install. If you're a casual modder, skip this one; if you're a purist or have money to burn, get one and feel good about yourself. I bet Pumaspeed will be releasing a whole series of pulleys in the future to build on the effects of this one. That's what the Honda/Acura/Subaru scene does, so I'm willing to bet we'll see more such products and eventually an entire set offered for one low price!!!!!!!
Anyhow that's it for this mod, hope this is helpful, I'll probably post more impressions in a week or two.
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I installed my pulley today and here are some thoughts.
*************
PRODUCT LINK
http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Pumaspeed-Racing-Fiesta-ST180-Uprated-Pulley_17810.jsp
When I ordered a week or so ago, there was no option for a larger belt, but I checked the link today and I see they have added it. Good job Pumaspeed. Last week I asked the Puma people and they said some were using a larger 1583mm belt but that the stock belt would work and it would stretch. However it will not stretch unless you roll the belt onto the pulley which I did not want to do. It would be extremely tight; even with the tensioner maxed out there is still several mm of room needed to stretch the belt on. Fortunately I thought of this in advance and ordered one, my buddy Daniel aka [MENTION=4142]SwAp GaS[/MENTION] scored me a larger Ford belt which fit perfectly. So make sure you get one. The one you want is pictured below, it is 1577mm, P/N JK6626. Not sure if that's the same thing Puma is offering as an add-on, they don't give a part number or size....but the one I got is perfecto.
BELT LINK
https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-JK6626-V-Belt/dp/B00J5BYKQK
*************
INSTALL
Not to difficult, there are a few things to consider but not bad. You'll need...
* pulley
* 1577mm belt JK6626
* flathead screwdriver
* 10mm ratcheting wrench
* 18mm wrench
* tensioner tool or make your own (not sure what the size was)
* pry bar
1. Get car in the air
2. Remove wheel
3. Using flathead screwdriver remove 2 bolts holding belt cover on (T25 I think but flathead was quicker), remove cover
4. Using 10mm wrench, loosen 4 bolts holding pulley just a bit...you can use the 18mm to turn the crank pulley as you go which will turn the water pump pulley you're replacing...this way the bolts are closer to you for easy access
5. Pull tensioner toward front of car, loosen belt from pulley of choice
6. Using 10mm wrench, remove 4 pulley bolts completely
7. Pulley will not come out, too little clearance, so say a curse word or make one up if you don't curse
8. Use pry bar on the bolt that holds the crank pulley in (easy to access spot) to pry engine a few mm to the driver's side of the car
9. At the same time you're doing #8, wiggle the pulley out the top - good luck doing this with one person, it is possible though, or there might be other ways to do this...
10. Now repeat step 8, install new pulley, tighten 4 bolts
11. Fit new belt loosely and make sure of correct route, pull tensioner again, slip new belt on, release tensioner, double check for correct placement on all pulleys
12. Double check that all 4 bolts are nice and tight
13. RE-install belt cover and wheel
14. Start car and make sure all is well and pulley isn't wobbly or wonky
15. Smile you are now finished good job
The only other thing I'd say about the install is that if you have solid mounts you're going to have to think of a strategy to loosen them or something because I don't think you can move the engine as needed in steps #7-10 if you have solid mounts (the two accessible from the engine bay). I have stock mounts with inserts so my engine moved no problem...
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PICTURES
Pic of email from Puma:
Here's the belt you need along with a pic of the pulley:
OEM pulley measured:
New pulley measured:
A tale of two pulleys:
Pulleys spooning:
Light shining on tensioner:
Pulley off:
Belt diagram, handy to have:
Installed:
This pic shows that there is margin on both sides:
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THOUGHTS ABOUT PUMASPEED
One thing I need to say here is that I'm slightly perturbed at Puma and here is why...along with my pulley I ordered 2 shirts. They sent me only one shirt, it was the wrong shirt and the wrong size. So I asked for the correct shirts, but instead they offered a refund. No problem, I can do without Puma shirts. But when they refunded me they only refunded me for the price of the shirts, not the shipping. Now, if you go into their order menu, each item you add adds shipping cost, and the shirts are a good portion of it because everything else I ordered was small but they had to send a bigger box to accommodate the shirt which should have been shirts. Naturally, I should be refunded the shipping required for the shirts, but they did not do that. I e-mailed them and requested for more of a refund and we will see what they say. If they do the right thing I will update here, otherwise I'm filing a claim with Paypal to get my shipping money refunded.
*************
IMPRESSIONS
I've only driven about 30 miles so I may have more thoughts to share later. But first thoughts are that this probably speeds up spool by maybe 10-15%. It's not like "OMFG MOAR POWER!!!!" or anything, but I do feel a small difference. I've done lightweight pulleys on other cars and there is a certain feeling it has with lightweight pulleys, I can't describe it but it's true. Torque-wise it feels like a high-flow panel filter was added or maybe like the A/C was on and then it was turned off and some power was freed up. Nothing crazy but it's a bit. Pretty much what I was expecting.
So it's not a must-do mod but for the price it's cheap and easy to install. If you're a casual modder, skip this one; if you're a purist or have money to burn, get one and feel good about yourself. I bet Pumaspeed will be releasing a whole series of pulleys in the future to build on the effects of this one. That's what the Honda/Acura/Subaru scene does, so I'm willing to bet we'll see more such products and eventually an entire set offered for one low price!!!!!!!
Anyhow that's it for this mod, hope this is helpful, I'll probably post more impressions in a week or two.
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