NEW Suspension, Soon to be Available

[RAAMaudio]

I have had more brands of coilovers than I can recall including higher end like Moton and a 3-way set of custom built Ohlins($$$$$) and the term inverted sure seems appropriate to me for the rear set as shown.

I would suggest calling somebody up the food chain a bit to get this sorted out, if it was that important to me, I will just consider them inverted though and call it good

 

[FineTooned]

These struts won't be adjustable, will they?

Also, any idea when they'll be available to the masses?

 

[D1JL]

These struts won't be adjustable, will they?

Also, any idea when they'll be available to the masses?

These are a monotube design and only adjustable by disassembly by Eibach.
This is why my car was in their shop for a week, every time they made an adjustment the struts had to be taken apart.

I was told that Eibach does not know at this time if the Multi-Pro-Race model will be developed (this is the fully adjustable race model).

As for when this set will be available has not been determined by Eibach at this time.
They still need to incorporate all the things that they learned on my set and put them into production.




Dave

 

[razorlab]

I have had more brands of coilovers than I can recall including higher end like Moton and a 3-way set of custom built Ohlins($$$$$) and the term inverted sure seems appropriate to me for the rear set as shown.

Same here and it is not a "proper" inverted strut. What No-pistons posted is correct for an inverted strut. Inverted means the actual internal monotube that does the actual dampening is inverted in the housing. Visually it will look like the front Bilsteins I posted and the diagram that No-Pistons posted.

This makes inverted struts stiffer.

Here is another image for reference, red is inverted, notice no visual bump stop?

Here is the inverted one taken apart, see the bump stop now?

See how it works now?

 

[no-pistons]

So if I take an actual inverted damper and turn it upside down, will it automatically become a standard damper?

 

[lessard.dcj]

Ok to kill the shityness of this convo.

The strut is inverted but is not an inverted strut.

Happy.

nice set commin either way. Peace

 

[D1JL]

So if I take an actual inverted damper and turn it upside down, will it automatically become a standard damper?

That is correct because you inverted it.

I refuse to let this go.


I will admit that it would be harder to invert the front strut as opposed to the rear.
Ha, opposed, another word that means the opposite, like inverted or upside down.
Yes, just like I originally meant.
My new rear struts are mounted opposite of the front ones therefore they are inverted.
If we turned them over they still would be standard struts, just not inverted.
I never said the internals were inverted.

This could go on forever.

I understand the point you are trying to make, I am not stupid.
But my definition is still correct, they are inverted so that they fit correctly.

Ok to kill the shityness of this convo.

The strut is inverted but is not an inverted strut.

Happy.

nice set commin either way. Peace

I agree.







Dave

 

[rodmoe]

Nice

 

[reracer]

Any updates for these?

General info: the whole point of an inverted strut/shock is to reduce the weight of the moving suspension components. Inverted struts/shocks attach the heaviest part of the strut/shock (the dampener)to the chassis. This makes the suspension more reactive and better controlled, by reducing unsprung weight. In this example, the front struts ARE NOT inverted, and the rear shocks ARE inverted.

 

[D1JL]

Testing was interrupted do to SEMA and now the holiday.
Some design changes are also under consideration.
The spring rates and dampening will be changed

I am sure they will be available in their final form for Christmas.



Dave

 

[reracer]

These available yet?

 

[DHM1]

Yea I was hopping for this. I would love a set of coil overs that get rid of the harshness.

Russ

 

[Chuckable]

In for updates

 

[D1JL]

Sorry, nothing yet.




Dave

 

[westcoaST]

Dave, if you know, how do these compare to the BC coilovers? I like the concept of true coil overs, but i'd like some adjustability. However, if the harshness of the rear shock package is reduced, while improving handling, these might be a good alternative. Cost is also important.

 

[airjor13]

Very nice, if the eibachs are priced competitively this will be a good option!

 

[D1JL]

There is no way I can speak of the Eibach final price as I just don't know.
However I am sure it will be more then the BC set.
In addition at this stage Eibach does not have adjustable dampers but they do work very well over a very wide range of conditions.
The final springs WILL be softer than the ones I have now.
Finally, it is still to be determined if the rears will be a one piece coilover or separate spring and shock.

That is the best I can do at this time as I don't have any further information.



Dave

 

[RAAMaudio]

For many drivers none adjustable shocks will be just fine for street and track when they are really well made and linear as well as setup for the spring rates properly which these would be of course.

 

[Hijinx]

Because they are inverted does not make them "inverted." They're simply upside down. It can be confusing until you start looking into tarmac/gravel suspension setups.

 

[RAAMaudio]

The only thing that comes to mind is possibly the location or orientation of the valving is changed on a truly inverted setup if just upside down is not the same as "inverted" when used in this regard.

In this particular case with the shock body up top and the spring down below the unsprung weight improvement would be partially or fully negated or even worsened if the spring weighed more than the shock body.

I still prefer it over inboard springs though I have inboards with the BC's and they are working quite well.