While they look nice unfortunately my fear is true they are not offering the B face (more concave) for our lug pattern.. Which takes me right back to wanting to go down the 4x100 conversion road. I want concave face wheels and it seems the only way to really get that option is by doing the conversion. Oh and ya the 4x100 16x8 version of this wheel is a B rather than the A face they are sticking us with.