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My ST Octane Academy Experience

meFiSTo

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Caveat: YMMV. This is just one person's LATE night anecdotal commentary.

I'm up late because I cannot sleep and had to overnight in Salt Lake City due to a lack of late flights back to SEATAC yesterday. So I figured I would jot down some notes on the STOA. First off, if you've never been the SLC and Miller Motorsports Park, I'd suggest making the trip if you have the spare cash and time. Miller is a world-class racing facility. I visited Laguna Seca back in the day when a friend was racing a Formula Ford, but I remember nothing of the venue, except a fleeting glimpse of the parking lot near the paddock and then the same for a trackside hot staging area. Otherwise, the tracks I've been to have been tilted WAY to the working-class environment -- functional, but spartan. Miller is truly a work of auto love funded by the late Larry Miller (a legendary Ford dealer and noted owner of the Utah Jazz). Apparently, he dropped $110 million of his own $$$ into development and was very involved with the entire project. He did it right. The Ford Racing museum is mind boggling. The Miller facility alone is nearly worth the trip -- not quite, but nearly. Having never been to SLC, it was also a neat experience to see the setting surrounding Miller (and SLC). It's a high, flat desert here, but the mountains that ring the area are truly beautiful. Stark, but again worth seeing. I can only imagine what it must be like in the dead of winter covered in snow. Park City is 40 minutes away from downtown SLC. Amazing.

In any event, that was the setting. As for the day itself, I had a nice time. I'll preface the rest of what I say by adding that I've become a little jaded in my old age -- and finicky.

I decided to attend the STOA because I figured that I would never get a chance to drive my own car at Miller and this was about my only real shot. Ford was kind enough to cover the cost of the event, I was running out of time (we have a year to exercise the option), and I'm just not getting younger. I went for it and am glad I did. The instructors were excellent and my highlight was getting out on the track to learn the line (we did the East Track). I'd call this a pretty "technical" track with several multi-turn sequences, decreasing radius, downhill turns, and some very late-apexing, counter-clockwise sweepers (my personal nemesis -- I consistently pinch them). Doing lead-follow and driving with an instructor was informative and entertaining. I could have used more time alone on-track, but it was a "school" and not a lapping day, so it was what it was.

That leads to my next comment. This event confirmed for me that I vastly prefer regular track days to driving school days, although this was probably one of the better school type days I've experienced. I just don't enjoy certain exercises (mostly because I'm lousy at them), like the hand-brake 180 turn or the parking box. I also am not a fan of auto-cross. I just don't like short courses around cones. They do nothing for me. So all that stuff, while admittedly useful car-control training tools, didn't really do it for me. Putting them together in the "urban" autocross setup made me more tense than ecstatic.

We also each did a "hot lap" as a passenger with an instructor in a Focus ST. That was very informative. What I noticed was how forgiving the Focust ST is at the limit. My instructor "Drew" was VERY good and fast. He had some fun sliding through a few turns. At times he made mid-turn steering and throttle adjustments (car was flying) and the Focus remained composed. There are some cars that would NOT have taken to that. I think the Fiesta could handle it as well, but probably not at the same speed (especially with the stock suspension hardware and rubber). It is just a narrower, shorter (front to back), and taller platform.

That leads me to my principal takeaway for the day. While I do love my Fiesta ST and am happy to have it, I found the Focus ST to be MUCH more composed in the track setting (at least in the more or less stock suspension setup used at the STOA). That was just my personal experience. It was easier to drive and more complaint. I think the addition of the BC racing coilovers, a little negative camber, and the LSD help my personal car a bit, but I found driving the Focus ST to be more relaxing in the setting of a road course. It also did not feel as big as it did before. Comparing them side by side was VERY interesting.

Lastly: I could have done without the karting at the end -- replacing it with an extra session in the car on the big track instead. I'm not fast, but I like working on my lines. I could have used another 15 minutes alone in the car on the empty track working on that stuff.

Having said all that, I think everyone else had a ball with all of it. There were only 8 of us, so it was a fantastic experience from an interaction-with-instructors perspective. If you've not been to a driving school of this form before, this is a good one.

YMMV.
 


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nice, I was up there the weekend prior and stayed for 5 days. I had a great time at STOA as well, it was very well organized at a top rate facility. I flew in, rented a car and explored northern Utah's scenic roads while I was there. I agree that more seat time on the solo track time would have been nice, but I did enjoy the kart time.
 


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Hey Kim it was nice meeting with you.

I really like your take on the experience, and agree with what you said. I do think the Focus is a more docile car on the track, but I think our car is more fun. It would have been nice to have timed laps for each of us in both cars just to see the difference.

Anyone else who might be on the fence about this needs to go. It is a once in lifetime opportunity!!
 


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Hey Kim it was nice meeting with you.

I really like your take on the experience, and agree with what you said. I do think the Focus is a more docile car on the track, but I think our car is more fun. It would have been nice to have timed laps for each of us in both cars just to see the difference.

Anyone else who might be on the fence about this needs to go. It is a once in lifetime opportunity!!
Nice meeting you too Jeff!

I really enjoy my little car, but I think the Focus ST is easier to drive fast on a track like MMR. It has more apparent grip at the limit. Having said that, I am not a "fast" driver. I think of myself as a relatively safe driver in a track setting, so I do not go all out. Once I'm comfortable with a venue, I will build speed, practice different techniques, and push to pass slower drivers. BUT: I do not race per se and so rarely really drive any car at its limit.
 


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So with hearing how Miller Motorsports Park may be closing, I wonder if Ford will move the ST Octane Academy somewhere else, I was looking forward to going to it as part of buying the car...lol.

Anybody else have an idea what could happen?
 


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So with hearing how Miller Motorsports Park may be closing, I wonder if Ford will move the ST Octane Academy somewhere else, I was looking forward to going to it as part of buying the car...lol.

Anybody else have an idea what could happen?
Well, one guy said that it's not going to close, but I have not found any confirmation.

There was a report in a racing news magazine of possible interest by outside orgs in MMP, but nothing else.
 


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Great review, great place, instructors, etc......glad you were able to attend.

I do agree, I like regular track days the best but I had not been on a track in a few years, just kept building different race cars then selling them off when I got the itch to build something crazier.....so the school was used to refresh my skills a bit before I took my very quick Fiesta out a couple of weeks later.

I am not into autocross either, did pretty well but to hyper for me, I used to be quite good at it as have done it on and off for years but am to mellow now, I like the track ten times better.

I skipped the kart session, to hard on my wrists, old injuries, karts are a bit to hyper for me as well.

I preferred the Fiesta on the track and I asked most if not all the instructors and they liked it better as well but we all have our own style and preferences.

Overall I found it to be an excellent event, very well ran, learned some things I thought I already knew but became better at.

I most highly recommend everybody with this car that does not have experience in autocross, track days, etc to attend as you will learn some skills that could save your arse someday, really. There is not time to think and sometimes barely time to react, this will sharpen up your reactions and control of the results significantly. I have seen far to many car wrecks caused by over reaction and lack of any skill to save it once started.
 


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I just went through the academy myself, Saturday the 30th of May. I live in the Salt Lake Valley so I didn't have to deal with the rigors of travel. I feel much the same as you, the exception being your take on the Focus ST. More on that in a second. I too thought the urban auto cross stuff was far less entertaining than being on the "real" track. I also wish we did the hot lap with an instructor earlier so my solo laps would have been performed with more confidence and knowledge.

Now, as far as the focus vs. fiesta, I disagree, while I know the top speed is faster in the focus, I found that on the track the fiesta was more engaging. Through the turns, you can 'feel' the fist more, and for me, it's much more fun. Let's face it, your pushing both cars hard, who cares if your going 100 mph in the focus vs. 90 mph in the fist at the end of the front straight, the fist is more fun.

Anyway, I would suggest anyone with an ST and the means go to the octane academy. Great experience and a great way to see how far you can push a FiST in a safe environment with the benefit that it isn't your personal ride. I loved it.
 


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I just found the stock Fiesta to be more nervous at the limit. Kind of twitchy. I found the Focus to be a little more composed and forgiving -- easier to drive at the limit (or rather at my limit). Having said that, the Fiesta suits my needs better. I like it's overall personality better, but if I wanted to go fast on your typical road course, and had a choice only between these two, I'd probably choose the Focus as a platform. Just as we modify our little Fiestas, you can modify the power, suspension, braking, and aero for the Focus ST. Get it right, and you could create a track monster with massive cornering grip, heart-stopping braking power, and tire-shredding grunt. But would it be more fun than our Fiestas? That's hard to say. It would be an utterly different experience. I'm happy with the lightly modified Fiesta that I have. It will be PLENTY of fun for me.
 


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The rear alignment is part of what makes the car fun but I knew it would be a bit loose on high speed corners, why I spent considerable time changing it on mine, before I even drove it at speed. I knew I would not like it on a track on race tires with more power, bigger brakes, suspension bushings, coilovers, etc.....
 


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