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INTRODUCING - The Game Changer in Performance Braking!

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*** PRODUCT UPDATE ***

After finishing our first samples of our new Carbon Composite Brake Discs, we have dissected them to check structural integrity and everything checks out ok. Next up is dyno testing to check for performance and wear under high temp/frictional loads.

All going well, expect these to be released to market by the end of the year (if you will be attending PMW in Cologne next month, we will have a sample on display). Our aim is to have a full range of fitments available for most popular vehicles and will be direct oem-replacement (i.e oem calipers can be used)

These will be our "Game Changer" product, offering the same level of performance (stopping power, fade, heat dissipation) and weight reduction (under 3kg per disc for 15/16/17" fitments and under 6kg for 18/19" fitments) as our top-tier Carbon Ceramic discs, yet will be priced comparably to high performance 2pc Iron discs (PFC, Giro Disc etc at a few hundred $'s per disc)

So what's the difference between these and our Carbon Ceramic discs (other than cost)?

The only difference is durability (i.e wear/oxidation) under heavy track use (high temps). Whereas our Carbon Ceramic discs are constructed from 1pc solid material (and take 2-3 months to produce), these new discs are actually made from several layers of "off cuts" from the Carbon Ceramic production process stacked on top of each other (multi-layer).

Don't confuse this with the cheap "chopped" Carbon Ceramic discs on the market; we still use the same material as our next generation Carbon Ceramic discs, but instead of throwing away the "off-cuts", we can now put them to better use. Not only does this significantly reduce costs, it also reduces the production time to only 2 weeks!

For heavy track use though, we would still recommend our Carbon Ceramic discs due to the increased durability. For street use and occasional track use, there would be zero difference other than cost.

Stay tuned for more updates after we've finished the dyno testing šŸ˜Ž

If you have any questions, or if you are interested in testing/sponsorship, please PM me.
 


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Glowing brake dyno pics or it didnā€™t happen! JK.

This looks pretty cool. I notice your sample uses cross drilling but no vanes or axial holes. Is this how they will look in practice, and if so is it a for cost considerations? You mentioned compatibility with both (some?) traditional pads as well as carbon ceramic/composite specific ones?

If so would you expect them to run generally hotter than an iron disc - not necessarily a problem for the CC, but I can see it needing a hotter heat range if you were to try using a ā€œtraditionalā€ pad. (Or maybe Iā€™m jumping to conclusions about the lack of vanes.)

Also, will the bolt patterns be pretty standard? For example could a Fiesta 4x108 hat be paired with a larger than stock size rotor, say 300mm to fit something like an SVT Focus, if thatā€™s even going to be a standard size, or other larger sizes that might work with other big-brake kits?
 


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On our GTR:
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The images attached were our "blanks", so no machining work has been done yet on them, hence no cooling vanes yet. We will be adding those to the samples before we test on the dyno.

Our discs can be used with general pads (carbon or ceramic non-ccb pads), but we don't really recommend it as the compound in those pads were designed for iron rotors, so the performance and feel is different. It's night and day difference using a ccb-specific pad.

With the grade of carbon used as well as the cooling vanes/holes, our discs actually self-regulate around 700-750c and don't really get much hotter than that. Once it goes above 800c (the "boiling point" of carbon ceramic), that's when wear (oxidation) start to happen on the disc.

All of our discs are floating 2pc, so the bells will be customised for each particular vehicle/fitment or the customers pcd/offset requirements.
 


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Very interesting and innovative product, but much overkill for street use with factory sliding calipers.

For some weight fanatics, the un-sprung weight savings at each corner might justify the co$t, even for street only use, but not for most. [:(]
 


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For owners that are only willing to purchase lower cost replacement discs, then you are correct; these are not the right product for them.

They are not our target market though. Our target market are those who do spend the money on high performance 2pc Iron discs.
 


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For owners that are only willing to purchase lower cost replacement discs, then you are correct; these are not the right product for them.

They are not our target market though. Our target market are those who do spend the money on high performance 2pc Iron discs.
Are these rotors going to be made in fiesta st size brakes? I'm really limited on what I can change in my class and this would be worth the extra un sprung and rotational weight loss while at those events I want to place well in.
 


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Are these rotors going to be made in fiesta st size brakes? I'm really limited on what I can change in my class and this would be worth the extra un sprung and rotational weight loss while at those events I want to place well in.
Yup, we'll be making the discs the same size (OD/Thickness) as the oem discs, so will be plug & play with your existing calipers
 


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Are these rotors going to be made in fiesta st size brakes? I'm really limited on what I can change in my class and this would be worth the extra un sprung and rotational weight loss while at those events I want to place well in.
Just bought some EBC rotors and two things I noticed immediately were the weight and (seemingly) extreme shallowness of the slotting. Seems like they'll be normal smooth rotors in relatively little time. The weight implies quality/density however so maybe they'll wear a lot slower.

The images attached were our "blanks", so no machining work has been done yet on them, hence no cooling vanes yet. We will be adding those to the samples before we test on the dyno.
This makes sense, since you're conducting scientific tests to confirm what to expect when pushed to their limits.
 


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