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Hotchkis swaybars
- Thread starter dmb
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Discount was because sales were slow and they were on the fence about whether to make more or just end the line.
Of course no one in our community was paying attention to Hotchkis as far as our cars were concerned because no advertising or discussion was drawing attention to them.
If the price went back to the original price then it sounds like they are going to do a new run.
Of course no one in our community was paying attention to Hotchkis as far as our cars were concerned because no advertising or discussion was drawing attention to them.
If the price went back to the original price then it sounds like they are going to do a new run.
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There are many opinions on this upgrade. Many say that the car is perfect and adding rear stiffness will cause the car to slide in quick turning. Others say that adding the bar improves turning/grip feel and allows more confidence. For modding a daily driver, my experience has been that adding stiffness in the lower rear of the car (e.g. torsion bar done years ago) did improve traction feel/experience. For that reason I felt that $86 was not much to pay for more improvement of the same.
My bar arrived today, quality is top-notch, finish is outstanding, packaging is overkill, you get stickers and install instructions and more, VERY impressed and I rarely use caps for emphasis.
I plan to install sometime in the next few weeks depending on rain, when I do I'll post some pics and thoughts.
For now, a track review from the other Hotchki thread for all you who are following...
Pics from my garage...
There are many opinions on this upgrade. Many say that the car is perfect and adding rear stiffness will cause the car to slide in quick turning. Others say that adding the bar improves turning/grip feel and allows more confidence. For modding a daily driver, my experience has been that adding stiffness in the lower rear of the car (e.g. torsion bar done years ago) did improve traction feel/experience. For that reason I felt that $86 was not much to pay for more improvement of the same.
My bar arrived today, quality is top-notch, finish is outstanding, packaging is overkill, you get stickers and install instructions and more, VERY impressed and I rarely use caps for emphasis.
I plan to install sometime in the next few weeks depending on rain, when I do I'll post some pics and thoughts.
For now, a track review from the other Hotchki thread for all you who are following...
Pics from my garage...
much agreed. mine came in today and i installed it. First suspension mod so far for my car, it def feels a lot more tied in in the rear. 270 degree incline off ramp i drive on frequently i can now go 5mph faster than before. not much but it does feel safer! next suspension mod will prob be the 6 point pierce harness.
The anti-roll (away) bar controls the body, the springs control the wheels. (This is a simplification, but it gets at the differing roles of the two suspension components)
This is true for most cars, it’s a bit more complicated with our torsion bar rear suspension. If my answer is not accurate for the FiST, hopefully someone will set it right.
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This is true for most cars, it’s a bit more complicated with our torsion bar rear suspension. If my answer is not accurate for the FiST, hopefully someone will set it right.
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Well actually that all depends on what type of spring one uses. In our cars a progressive spring is used and because progressive springs change load rate so they actually do control some of the body roll. In fact for GT cars , off road and road racing contrary to what some people think and feel around here progressive is great way to go. A quote from the Hyperco website one of the best spring makers out there.
“For grand touring and high-performance driving, progressive rate springs offer great ride quality and superior handling due to the roll control offered by the springs. This is especially true if a reduced ride height is desired. The initial light rate provides a great ride, while the increased secondary rate assures a load carrying capability unavailable if lowering with a linear rate spring is attempted. Most high-performance driving involves a fixed vehicle package with only one or two passengers and very limited extra weight. This is the ideal situation for progressive rate springs.”
So in effect if one is concerned about stiff ride feel on the street one should look towards a progressive spring and why most aftermarket lowering springs are progressive rather than linear.
Now one of the problems with going progressive vs linear is that you need travel room for them to function properly. Hence why you see a lot of coilover manufacturers specing their setups with linear. As most people setup coilovers with limited travel room.
This can and can’t be advantagous. It depends on what you are trying to do with your car a its application.
You are correct that swaybars do nothing more than control body roll yet they are also technically a spring. The Hotchkis by the way its designed to be mounted to our cars will indeed increase torsional rear stiffness besides controlling body roll.
“For grand touring and high-performance driving, progressive rate springs offer great ride quality and superior handling due to the roll control offered by the springs. This is especially true if a reduced ride height is desired. The initial light rate provides a great ride, while the increased secondary rate assures a load carrying capability unavailable if lowering with a linear rate spring is attempted. Most high-performance driving involves a fixed vehicle package with only one or two passengers and very limited extra weight. This is the ideal situation for progressive rate springs.”
So in effect if one is concerned about stiff ride feel on the street one should look towards a progressive spring and why most aftermarket lowering springs are progressive rather than linear.
Now one of the problems with going progressive vs linear is that you need travel room for them to function properly. Hence why you see a lot of coilover manufacturers specing their setups with linear. As most people setup coilovers with limited travel room.
This can and can’t be advantagous. It depends on what you are trying to do with your car a its application.
You are correct that swaybars do nothing more than control body roll yet they are also technically a spring. The Hotchkis by the way its designed to be mounted to our cars will indeed increase torsional rear stiffness besides controlling body roll.
I am not trying to start any controversy here but I had a similar issue.
I use the Ebach (available sooner & free) rear sway bar, not that the bar should make any difference.
I found that the issue you are describing in my case was cause by the rear brakes.
By increasing the gripping force of the rear brakes made this problem go away.
Again, this just the way I solved it.
I use the Ebach (available sooner & free) rear sway bar, not that the bar should make any difference.
I found that the issue you are describing in my case was cause by the rear brakes.
By increasing the gripping force of the rear brakes made this problem go away.
Again, this just the way I solved it.
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