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HELP! My ongoing Weird ST issue...

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2015 Fiesta ST. Stage 2, downpipe, Milltec catback, R-Sport intake, Bigger IC, Quaife diff, New Clutch and flywheel, Big break kit, OZ rally wheels with Nankang NS-2R 205/40/17.

I "raced" a Golf GTI and at 6000rpm or so i let off and get a puff of smoke behind me (ECU protecting the engine i assume). After this the car starts bogging down as soon as i get boost. It bangs in the exhaust like im about to go on the 2 step.

I have changed spark plugs just prior to this but it ran fine for a few trips before this happen. I also pulled them and they look fine. Plugs was from Pumaspeed and pre gapped. After this i changed MAF and MAP sensors, new coils, comp tested all sylinders and they are fine. Also bought new sensor with the turbo with 3 small rubber hoses... Now the fault may happen at higher rpm... We tested fuel pressure and it dosent drop on full wot even when it starts to bungle. A mechanic felt it was like water in the fuel or condensation so i added some treatment, ran the tank empty and added full tank of 98octane...But it still the same...

Culd this be injectors? Any other suggestions to what to do next?
 


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Yes there is boost... It still rips but uneven :)
 


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Could've crapped the exhaust turbine i there is No Boost* Gotta take the DP off though for INspection though.
I have healthy boost as far as i know. I shuld take a video to show. It goes if wot but it has small "dipps" like if ignition was on/off... So im thinking if an injector is having troubble it wount give a code would it?
 


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If it was misfiring it would normally throw a code, I would also try to watch AFR to make sure those stay consistent
 


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If it was misfiring it would normally throw a code, I would also try to watch AFR to make sure those stay consistent
Not unless it hits the Misfire threshold. every manufacturer is different. Every car misfires some. But not alot. I think its fuel related
 


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Have you noticed any difference in fuel consumption since this started happening? Could give a clue about what's going on.
 


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Have you noticed any difference in fuel consumption since this started happening? Could give a clue about what's going on.
First of all THANKS for helping me out! All of you...!!!

Not realy... It might be higher but if so only slight. AFR seem to be ok even at wot- Also checked fuel pressure and its consistant.

Im thinking something happen that time i raced the GTI... The puff of smoke most likely was the ecu protecting the engine. Question is what can give this reaction...? Would a bad injector result in this? Would a blown headgasket result like this? There is no mix of oil and coolant either in engine or in the coolant. No smoke while driving either blue or white... It runs fine until Ă¥ push it... False air cant give these symptoms? I looked over everything and its fine... I will do a comp test and leak test again. Just to eliminate it!

Since the stuttering is not regular and wount hinder me to reach full rpm i agree that it could be a gas issue but i did put some stuff to mix if there is condensation and also i drove it to 0km in range and filled it with 98octane with no ethanol...But its still the same.

Could a bad injector give these symptoms?
 


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come to think f it when i had an injector go bad the car stuttered nonstop under throttle but idles fine, might be worth checking your injectors, I know also that the high pressure fuel sensors have a tendency to go bad but i feel like that would throw a code.
 


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How wold you go about testing Injectors on these? Since idle is fine, even up higher as well...Sometimes it stutters just by getting at boost and other times only at harder acceleration. Maby time to get bigger injectors and a turbo... :)
 


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as far as I know to test injectors you have to put them on a test bench, if you plan on pushing your car really hard I definitely recommend the double sealed injectors I know @Woods247 is trying to sell a set
 


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Yeah i rather just buy new and try it out.

Question: If i install bigger injectors, will they be able to run as normal even if i dont install a bigger turbo? And consumption would be as before or will they not run right on oem engine setup...

Reason im asking is that the car might not get a new turbo just yet
 


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Yeah i rather just buy new and try it out.

Question: If i install bigger injectors, will they be able to run as normal even if i dont install a bigger turbo? And consumption would be as before or will they not run right on oem engine setup...

Reason im asking is that the car might not get a new turbo just yet
Injectors require tuning but they’ll run fine. The cost of tuning makes it nonsensical to do if not taking advantage of the extra flow.
 


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Yes they need to be adjusted an programmed to the car. Good im a tuner of sorts...well i dont make the tuning but i put it in others cars ;-). So it wount be a big problem. But i was not shure how it would do on consumption. We tune 99% oem cars
 


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I tried logging some stuff but im not shure if i got the important stuff... Cant share the log so i share a print screen. Is this telling U anything?
Tell me what i shuld log and ill share it here? Apresiate the help of u guys!
 


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So..What did you figure out?
Well i solved it yesterday actualy... But its imbarrassing đŸ¤­. I bought sparkplugs from Pumaspeed. It said on the ad they where pre gapped..... So long story short i took out all the plugs and checked them. They where 1.1 and what i culd read online was that ST fans like them 0.7. So I made them 0.7 and now it runs perfect.

It might be worth mentioning i used 15nm this time and not by feel :)
 




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