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GFB dv+ installed
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They can handle 400+ to the wheels for short term bursts on pure factory stock internals, to handle the cylinder pressures necessary to maintain that kind of power, steadily, for long periods of time is another story which no one it seems has really tested.
I'd like to see an endurance test on an engine dyno of a 1.6 Ecoboost fitted with ALL of the necessary auxiliary add-ons/mods and very powerful fans in front of the full race size IC to even attain those power levels, and run at those power levels until it pops.
I wonder how long it would last.![[dunno]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_dunno.gif "Dunno [dunno]")
From reading on here, the deduction I come to is that ancillary fueling (as in water-methanol injection, or an added single fuel/ethanol mix injector) is not absolutely necessary until one hits ~330 WHP, although it does seem to take at least a 70% 93 octane fuel/30% ethanol mix to hit that 330+ to the wheels mark.
(PLEASE someone, correct me if I have the above, or ANY of this post, ALL wrong!!)
As far as I have seen, or heard, no one has come up with much bigger direct injectors and stronger/higher capacity D.I. fuel pumps, or with a doubled up direct injection system (2 per cylinder) yet, probably due to the logistics involved, programming the ECU for it, actual room available in the head's combustion chamber roof, and of course, the prohibitive cost involved in this endeavor.
I do believe I have seen, or at least heard of someone adding a whole ancillary PORT injection system (1 port injector per cylinder) in addition to the factory D.I. system, to help with big power/turbo fueling needs.
I'd like to see an endurance test on an engine dyno of a 1.6 Ecoboost fitted with ALL of the necessary auxiliary add-ons/mods and very powerful fans in front of the full race size IC to even attain those power levels, and run at those power levels until it pops.
I wonder how long it would last.
From reading on here, the deduction I come to is that ancillary fueling (as in water-methanol injection, or an added single fuel/ethanol mix injector) is not absolutely necessary until one hits ~330 WHP, although it does seem to take at least a 70% 93 octane fuel/30% ethanol mix to hit that 330+ to the wheels mark.
(PLEASE someone, correct me if I have the above, or ANY of this post, ALL wrong!!)
As far as I have seen, or heard, no one has come up with much bigger direct injectors and stronger/higher capacity D.I. fuel pumps, or with a doubled up direct injection system (2 per cylinder) yet, probably due to the logistics involved, programming the ECU for it, actual room available in the head's combustion chamber roof, and of course, the prohibitive cost involved in this endeavor.
I do believe I have seen, or at least heard of someone adding a whole ancillary PORT injection system (1 port injector per cylinder) in addition to the factory D.I. system, to help with big power/turbo fueling needs.
They can handle 400+ to the wheels for short term bursts on pure factory stock internals, to handle the cylinder pressures necessary to maintain that kind of power, steadily, for long periods of time is another story which no one it seems has really tested.
I'd like to see an endurance test on an engine dyno of a 1.6 Ecoboost fitted with ALL of the necessary auxiliary add-ons/mods and very powerful fans in front of the full race size IC to even attain those power levels, and run at those power levels until it pops.
I wonder how long it would last.
From reading on here, the deduction I come to is that ancillary fueling (as in water-methanol injection, or an added single fuel/ethanol mix injector) is not absolutely necessary until one hits ~330 WHP, although it does seem to take at least a 70% 93 octane fuel/30% ethanol mix to hit that 330+ to the wheels mark.
(PLEASE someone, correct me if I have the above, or ANY of this post, ALL wrong!!)
As far as I have seen, or heard, no one has come up with much bigger direct injectors and stronger/higher capacity D.I. fuel pumps, or with a doubled up direct injection system (2 per cylinder) yet, probably due to the logistics involved, programming the ECU for it, actual room available in the head's combustion chamber roof, and of course, the prohibitive cost involved in this endeavor.
I do believe I have seen, or at least heard of someone adding a whole ancillary PORT injection system (1 port injector per cylinder) in addition to the factory D.I. system, to help with big power/turbo fueling needs.
I'd like to see an endurance test on an engine dyno of a 1.6 Ecoboost fitted with ALL of the necessary auxiliary add-ons/mods and very powerful fans in front of the full race size IC to even attain those power levels, and run at those power levels until it pops.
I wonder how long it would last.
From reading on here, the deduction I come to is that ancillary fueling (as in water-methanol injection, or an added single fuel/ethanol mix injector) is not absolutely necessary until one hits ~330 WHP, although it does seem to take at least a 70% 93 octane fuel/30% ethanol mix to hit that 330+ to the wheels mark.
(PLEASE someone, correct me if I have the above, or ANY of this post, ALL wrong!!)
As far as I have seen, or heard, no one has come up with much bigger direct injectors and stronger/higher capacity D.I. fuel pumps, or with a doubled up direct injection system (2 per cylinder) yet, probably due to the logistics involved, programming the ECU for it, actual room available in the head's combustion chamber roof, and of course, the prohibitive cost involved in this endeavor.
I do believe I have seen, or at least heard of someone adding a whole ancillary PORT injection system (1 port injector per cylinder) in addition to the factory D.I. system, to help with big power/turbo fueling needs.
Boost, throttle %, elapsed time and RPM would be nice, logged through several pulls through multiple gears. Preferably speed shifting. 
Interesting question and one I was thinking, even though I will never run a BOV too garish of a sound for me. But without doing it personally there are 2 point I see to this. 1 bolts will need to be longer. The bolts with the BOV will not be long enough for the BOV and DV+. Secondly the DV+ is design to slowly release pressure when the accelerator is released as oppose to complete dump with the stock system. Therefore even if every is compatible the BOV woosh sound will likely sound more like a boost leak (which you can see/hear in the DV+ design video when Brent toggles the mechanical switch with the compressor @ 30psi.)
But I could be wrong on the second part and until someone does it it is only speculation.
As far are will it wreck the performance. I do not think so. The BOV was always an amplifier of the boost bleed from the stock valve teh upgraded DV+ valve is self reliant and should operate with the BOV.
But I could be wrong on the second part and until someone does it it is only speculation.
As far are will it wreck the performance. I do not think so. The BOV was always an amplifier of the boost bleed from the stock valve teh upgraded DV+ valve is self reliant and should operate with the BOV.
So I finally got around to getting my GFB dv+ installed today and I must say, the sound is great. Definitely a louder than the stock BPV when shifting from 1st to 2nd, but for sure WAY louder when going WOT between say 2nd and 3rd, and 3rd to 4th. That for sure put a HUGE smile on my face. I can also see where people were saying that the boost is held better between 1st and 2nd gear. I don't feel the lag any more in those gears, and that is really nice.
Installing this on a cyborg39 this week. Should be pretty telling once the tune gets the boost cranked up
I hit 28.25 psi yesterday on the regular cyborg with stock BOV. I'm not going afte a particular Psi, since it on it's own is not an indication of power. I'm thinking on 93 Octane I will probably be running around 26 ish Psi and on E-30 probably 28ish maybe 29 in cool weather. Remember since the internals of the turbo are bigger, you will make the same WHP with less Psi. I'm just hoping it runs strong, smooth power delivery and reliable since i'm going to the track next month to see how she does. (Sebring)![[driving]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_driving.gif "Driving [driving]")
to anyone thinking of buying one of these. Whooshmotorsports is a new vendor on the forum and has them for less than anyone else around. Check out the link.
http://whooshmotorsports.com/collec...ve-dv-ford-fiesta-ecoboost-direct-replacement
http://whooshmotorsports.com/collec...ve-dv-ford-fiesta-ecoboost-direct-replacement
I hit 28.25 psi yesterday on the regular cyborg with stock BOV. I'm not going afte a particular Psi, since it on it's own is not an indication of power. I'm thinking on 93 Octane I will probably be running around 26 ish Psi and on E-30 probably 28ish maybe 29 in cool weather. Remember since the internals of the turbo are bigger, you will make the same WHP with less Psi. I'm just hoping it runs strong, smooth power delivery and reliable since i'm going to the track next month to see how she does. (Sebring)
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I don't know about change your life, but it will transform the car for sure. Like going from Pee Wee Herman to Sylvester Stallone. Not quite Arnold Swartzenegger, but close![[strongman]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_strongman.gif "Strongman [strongman]"){kind=icon}
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