Fiesta ST Intercooler/Chargepipe upgrade... worth it?

[EdwardFdz]

Did you add anything to close the gap between the battery and heat shield? This is where most of the hot air gets in from. Adding some insulation to close that up and close up the gap around the intake pipe at the heat shield helped a lot.

In retrospect if I still had the Injen, I'd invest in a 90* bend coupler, omit the Injen heat shield and reroute the inlet/filter somewhere else with pieces from Spectre or something.

What will you suggest to insulate that gap bluebomber????

 

[Mostlynotgay]

In retrospect if I still had the Injen, I'd invest in a 90* bend coupler, omit the Injen heat shield and reroute the inlet/filter somewhere else with pieces from Spectre or something.

It's funny you say that, I was talking with my other auto-tuner friend about just that. I had a Scion xB when they first came out and the cold-air intake kit on that completely relocated the intake from the top of the engine compartment to the bottom, behind the front grille. We went poking around to see if there was space enough to relocate the intake.

 

[BlueBomber]

What will you suggest to insulate that gap bluebomber????

I used thick weatherstrip but a permanent solution might be a strip of metal + insulation tape.

 

[EdwardFdz]

Do u have any pics of this?

 

[BlueBomber]

Do u have any pics of this?

It looked janky so no. I never took pics.

I did it in a very temporary manner with plans to redo it in a more permanent manner later, but it proved that I was right.

 

[EdwardFdz]

LOL ok

 

[westcoaST]

Make a template out of card board. Then transfer the pattern over to aluminum. Place stainless steel adhesive backed thermal insulation (I got mine from Amazon - Heatshield products for my SC Mustang). You are good to go, and you can fab this with some 2 x 4s for the bends and whatnot. Heat is the enemy of Turbo cars.

I'll be doing this once I put in my Levels FMIC. I'm leaning towards getting the ATP charge air pipe.

I'm doing a build thread on the Levels FMIC and a Mishimoto oil catch can with some ID mods added, as it is only an empty can. Its on this website.

I'm also going to take my Mountune air box, change out the felt hose to a real hose, and fab a real inlet. I might put it where the fog light bezel is and paint those suckers performance blue.

I hope the mountune exhaust comes out soon, so I can make a decision between it and the Cobb exhaust. Then a stage 3 tune.

 

[envyist]

Anyone else of the opinion that a 3" mandrel bent and roto formed tube leading to a mountune/cobb or stock ported box with hi flow filter. Would absolutely rock?

 

[D1JL]

I have the mountune air box, FMIC, and boost pipe set.

I was the first to purchase the mountune FMIC here in the US and glad to put it in.
What has been said above is correct, it does not add HP but it does keep the air charge temp more constant and it dissipates heat soak more quickly.

The closed air box keeps hot engine compartment air from getting in.
It also draws additional cool air via the hose in the bottom the box.
I Just attached mine to the plastic charge pipe so that cool air is drawn from the center and beneath the car for better air flow.
The use of the pores hose is used so that water can not be sucked up do to its lower intake level (although this is still impossible).
I choose not to place this hose behind the fog light as this provides poor air flow and the fog light itself is a heat source (I keep mine on all the time).

The boost hoses don't do much however the metal boost pipe does provide better flow as it removes the "muffler" that causes turbulence.
As for the rest of the hoses, as I said, don't do much except add color/looks, except the silicone hose will also last much longer than the OE rubber.


Now for the Mishimoto oil catch can that westcoaST is using.
I looks to be exactly the same as I what am using in size, shape, and setup.
It can be mounted in the back of the engine bay and when connected with OE hoses, it looks almost Original Equipment.
All I can say here is Good Choice.





Dave

 

[Kip2MyLou]

I have the mountune air box, FMIC, and boost pipe set.

I was the first to purchase the mountune FMIC here in the US and glad to put it in.
What has been said above is correct, it does not add HP but it does keep the air charge temp more constant and it dissipates heat soak more quickly.

The closed air box keeps hot engine compartment air from getting in.
It also draws additional cool air via the hose in the bottom the box.
I Just attached mine to the plastic charge pipe so that cool air is drawn from the center and beneath the car for better air flow.
The use of the pores hose is used so that water can not be sucked up do to its lower intake level (although this is still impossible).
I choose not to place this hose behind the fog light as this provides poor air flow and the fog light itself is a heat source (I keep mine on all the time).

The boost hoses don't do much however the metal boost pipe does provide better flow as it removes the "muffler" that causes turbulence.
As for the rest of the hoses, as I said, don't do much except add color/looks, except the silicone hose will also last much longer than the OE rubber.


Now for the Mishimoto oil catch can that westcoaST is using.
I looks to be exactly the same as I what am using in size, shape, and setup.
It can be mounted in the back of the engine bay and when connected with OE hoses, it looks almost Original Equipment.
All I can say here is Good Choice.





Dave

Do you have the Mountune charge pipe upgrade and/or high flow induction hose upgrade?

 

[D1JL]

Do you have the Mountune charge pipe upgrade and/or high flow induction hose upgrade?

Yes I do.



Dave

 

[Kip2MyLou]

Okay, nice. I'm thinking about buying both of those when I get their intake and/or intercooler.

 

[me32]

So are we gonna get dyno before an after

 

[BRGT350]

Looking at the data graphs between air temp after the intercooler and ambiant under acceleration, the factory intercooler sees significant increases in temp compared to an aftermarket intercooler. Prior to seeing the data, I had placed an intercooler on the low priority list, but that has changed after seeing the graphs showing the difference. As stated before, the intercooler doesn't increase power, it delivers power consistantly.

 

[BlueBomber]

You nailed it- for anyone wondering about intercoolers and what they really do check out this informative article I put together that explains it.

http://blog.modbargains.com/all-about-intercoolers/

 

[Kip2MyLou]

Well while we're on intercoolers do have a concrete decision that the charge pipes aren't needed for stock turbo people? But a hot side pipe would be recommended? Only asking because I'm about to buy the cobb intercooler and wonder if I'll need any extra piping.

 

[dyn085]

Well while we're on intercoolers do have a concrete decision that the charge pipes aren't needed for stock turbo people? But a hot side pipe would be recommended? Only asking because I'm about to buy the cobb intercooler and wonder if I'll need any extra piping.

I don't think either are 'recommended' on a stock turbo, but they're definitely not 'needed'. It's not going to hurt performance, but don't bank on it helping either. They look nice though.

 

[Kip2MyLou]

I don't think either are 'recommended' on a stock turbo, but they're definitely not 'needed'. It's not going to hurt performance, but don't bank on it helping either. They look nice though.

Asking because I'm either going cobb intercooler for around 580 or dhm intercooler and charge pipe for around 540, I think that's what he's asking.

Do those two intercoolers come close to each other, performance and build wise. And I know it's not really on the thread topic but thought it was the best time ask about intercoolers. Ha.

 

[BoostBumps]

Well while we're on intercoolers do have a concrete decision that the charge pipes aren't needed for stock turbo people? But a hot side pipe would be recommended? Only asking because I'm about to buy the cobb intercooler and wonder if I'll need any extra piping.

Your going to get conflicting opinions on this...I haven't seen any proof one way or another if this is worth replacing particularly when running a stock turbo...

I'd say if you plan on upgrading to a larger turbo in the future then its probably a good thing to do so...Most without plans to upgrade to a larger turbo probably wouldn't notice any difference...

Here is a good illustration that ATP lays out showing the abrupt changes and bottle knecks on the OE hot side pipe... my view is eliminating any points that create airflow turbulence can't be a bad thing either!

 

[dyn085]

Even ATP states that it's not necessary on the stock turbo.