Fiesta ST Intake Thread

[stuntdoogie]

Thanks for the info. I just joined the forum a couple days ago and have been trying to cover my bases with everything. I do plan on keeping the car for a very long time, and my modding process will most likely be slow.

What are the benefits of a catch can? And what brand (s) would you recommend?

Catch Can prevents blow by meaning oil entering your intake from high boost. Its a common issue with Direct Injection Turbo engines.

 

[iso100]

-iso100 Thanks for the advice - I'm wondering if a mishimoto or cobb intake is worth the $$? I would like some more turbo sound, and since I live in Sacramento it has been hitting almost 110 degrees daily - so I definitely do not want anything that will suck hot air..

Yes. Either of those two are great options. The Cobb is all plastic so there's no real heat transfer issues and the Mishimoto at least has a non-metal lower pipe.

 

[Based]

So is there any performance gains from just a drop in filter? I'm not spending $300 on an intake system that just makes it louder.

 

[AzNightmare]

It's still debatable if an intake system even offers any real gain. I'm not fully convinced a drop in helps either. But I personally have the drop in filter only cause it's cheap. But I wouldn't drop $300 on an intake unless you really want the noise.

 

[Original J-Pat]

That's why I haven't bought an intake nothing has impressed me besides maybe the cobb, mishimoto, cp-e, or map or maf performance don't remember the name. Which have closed sealed boxes. I've read upgrading the hoses is a better budget friendly option rather than the whole box assembly.

 

[Original J-Pat]

I know it may take some effort but someone should update the pictures of adding the more options of intakes.

 

[re-rx7]

Map has a intake for the 2016. Seems to be pretty gd with no codes.

 

[M-Sport fan]

It's still debatable if an intake system even offers any real gain. I'm not fully convinced a drop in helps either. But I personally have the drop in filter only cause it's cheap. But I wouldn't drop $300 on an intake unless you really want the noise.

Until someone PROVES to me, with cold, hard evidence, that an aftermarket intake either gives documented power ABOVE AND BEYOND any dyno variances, or margins of error, OR a substantially lower charge temp, I am sticking with the factory intake, probably even including the hoses/piping.

It is also less hassle/problems just in case I am forced to go back to my shitty dealership for any reason whatsoever (these aftermarket intakes are much more noticeable as NOT being factory parts, even including the Mountune using the stock cover/top, than even a well done cyborg/hybrid turbo setup, by the average Ford tech, who does not deal with these cars very often).

I am still debating whether or not to even do a drop-in filter, since for every other platform I've ever dealt with, they have been proven to not do a thing for power, and can even contaminate (with oil AND dirt) the MAF sensors of those platforms/engines which DO use the MAF sensor for actually DIRECTLY controlling the engine functions, unlike ours which ONLY use it as a monitoring device.

IF aFe, AEM, or airaid bring a dry flow type panel filter to market for our cars, I will get it, or I might just try the ITG oiled foam panel filter, since the foam oil is so viscous that it cannot be blown back into anything downstream, even if soaked in said oil, unlike the thin oil viscosity cotton gauze type oiled filters so popular on here and elsewhere.

 

[iso100]

Until someone PROVES to me, with cold, hard evidence, that an aftermarket intake either gives documented power ABOVE AND BEYOND any dyno variances, or margins of error, OR a substantially lower charge temp, I am sticking with the factory intake, probably even including the hoses/piping.

Here's my before and after dyno on CP-E's Mustang Dyno. Before is Green and that's not just stock. It's a Mountune-style silicone replacement section, a huge K&N filter, custom ABS heat shield and a MAF adapter.

Red is the "after" run that performed best. Blue is also another after run, but included more heat soak.

This proves the CP-E intake does make more power but the caveat is that it's all metal and will get very warm. If you stop the car while hot and get in it a half hour later, your intake air temps will be easily 20F more than ambient because of this. While at high load and higher RPM, this doesn't matter much because the convective heating of the hot piping doesn't have much time to transfer to air that's moving through the system so quickly.

 

[Sekred]

New Intake from PumaSpeed. 15 BHP and 25 Torques ?

http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Ramair-Performance-Induction-Kit-Fiesta-St180_17249.jsp

 

[BoostBumps]

New Intake from PumaSpeed. 15 BHP and 25 Torques ?

http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Ramair-Performance-Induction-Kit-Fiesta-St180_17249.jsp

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I'm not sure but aren't the intake systems for EU FiSTs MAF controlled which require retuning for all Intake upgrades?

"Because of the increase in airflow this kit may need to be fitted alongside an ECU remap".

 

[Sekred]

I'm not sure but aren't the intake systems for EU FiSTs MAF controlled which require retuning for all Intake upgrades?

Yes they are MAF controlled but I don't think retuning is really necessary by just changing the intake. When I got my Peron tune they asked about my intake system mainly in regard to the MAF housing ID and basically said changing this even by a small amount would cause problems and trigger a CEL.

I wonder if the MAF housing ID is different with this intake?

 

[M-Sport fan]

Yes, and I just realized that this is why we cannot use the ITG Maxogen system I mentioned in another thread (which some of our Brit members have installed on their STs) with our ECUs here in the states, unless they make a speed density version for us as well?

 

[PhillyST]

Can I use the Injen intake tube into the stock airbox? I do not like the idea of an open air filter for driving through rainy days. Mainly going for looks but do not like silicone hose look.

 

[LilPartyBox]

I was hoping to use one of the UK intakes. Either the aforementioned Ramair or the R-sport. The sensor mount looks identical to ours so I assumed it wouldn't be an issue. an expensive experiment I may have to tackle some day soon as they (and itg) have the only intakes for our car that is a true cold air...

 

[LILIKE16ST]

I have asked in a couple other threads related to intakes so I'll ask here too. I have a 16 fiesta st and I was wondering if anyone here with a 16 ST has been able to successfully install the 2jr intake on a 16? I understand there is a 3 foot maf extension you can get that is plug and play, appears stock, and allows you to return to stock if you wish. And for the 16 model which is different maperformance has an adapter that allows the use of 14-15 intakes on the 16. My question is with the maperformance adapter and the 3 foot maf extension would I be able to use the 2jr intake on a 16 and also be able to return to stock just as easily. I know this adapter allows use of 14-15 intakes on the 16 I've seen people use the cobb and the injen intake from the 14-15 on the 16 with this adapter but since the 2jr is located in a totally different position opposite side of the engine bay I was wondering if this would be possible with it too and if anyone here has been able to do this? I'm thinking it would work but I'm just now doing research on said adapter to retrofit intakes from earlier years on the 16 and I'm not sure if it would work with the 2jr being in a totally different position and if that would have any effect. The way I understand it the maperformance adapter pretty much connects everything together and enables use of earlier intakes with no ill effects or CELs or anything and the adapter doesn't even connect to the intake itself...it appears it just hooks in to itself so to speak (if that makes sense) and not to the actual intake allowing use of these earlier intakes with no ill effects. If this is in deed the case the 2jr should be able to be used with said adapter no problem on the 16. Can anyone confirm? Has anyone done this and used the 2jr on the 16? Very interested in this intake I just want to varify it will work before I pull the trigger. Any help is appreciated thanks before hand!
Michael

 

[blakewillingham]

Has anyone heard anything about K&N coming out with an intake for the 2016 FiST?

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[Striker]

Has anyone actually seen gains from a cai and the big mouth inlet piece?


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[blakewillingham]

Can someone in California with a 2016 FiST donate their car to K&N so they will release an intake?! Lol I would but I'm pretty far from Cali

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[Rhinopolis]

I installed over the weekend a 2cd hand 2JR cowl intake that I bought for $100. It was wrapped in silver heat reflective tape, and I sprayed the heat tape with black heat protective coating to give it a nice and shiny black finish. I also ordered a new K&N filter and over night shipped the filter or a reasonable $5 over the purchase price.

I had to remove and modify my PCV oil catch can (home made with a Mishimoto universal can) and since the 2JR MAF adapter is placed directly in the spot where I used to mount the catch can. I did order a Mishimoto baffled catch can kit (red hoses and $190 from Modbargains) and it should arrive with an adapter to mount under the passenger headlamp and then extend the catch can up and in the empty space near the passenger headlamp.

There was an issue after I modified my AN PCF connector on the intake manifold side to test the intake, and the intake manifold side PCF AN connector would not stay connected. Anytime that I got above 15 psi it would would blow that connector right off and the car would quickly start acting funny with a check engine light coming on. A reset of KAM and clearing the code via my AP (after I reconnected the hose) would allow me to drive fine and as long as no boost above 15 psi.

The sound of the 2JR is REALLY loud, and every review stating this is true and accurate. I don't daily the car, and to me it will be fun once I have the new catch can that comes with replacement AN PCF connectors. I am curious too if there will be any power increase over the Cobb intake that I had on, and I will do a few datalogs and compare my best Virtual Dyno log with the Cobb to whatever I end up logging with the 2JR.

See attached photos. The 1st is what the intake looked like when I purchased it (minus good conditions hoses and the MAF extension), and the 2cd is after installed and after I put on a new filter plus sprayed the silver heat reflective tape with a black heat resistant coating. I like it in black