Brake rotor info

[pelotonracer2]

So, it's time for brake pads and rotors for my FiST. Since I don't track my car, I'm going with R1 Concepts slotted and drilled rotors (just for the looks mainly). I don't have much time to do any in depth research but if someone could post the stock rotor demensions (front and rear) that would be most helpful. I don't want to pay the $323.71 kit price (rotors and brake pads) until I can confirm the rotor size. Many thanks in advance to whoever posts this info.

 

[J2FoRS]

So, it's time for brake pads and rotors for my FiST. Since I don't track my car, I'm going with R1 Concepts slotted and drilled rotors (just for the looks mainly). I don't have much time to do any in depth research but if someone could post the stock rotor demensions (front and rear) that would be most helpful. I don't want to pay the $323.71 kit price (rotors and brake pads) until I can confirm the rotor size. Many thanks in advance to whoever posts this info.

Link to kit?
Increased diameter front brake rotors (278 millimeters x 23 millimeters) (10.9 inches x 0.91 inches), rear brake rotors (253 millimeters x 10.2 millimeters (9.9 inches x 0.40 inches) with unique calipers and ST-tuned brake pads.

 

[BRGT350]

crap, I just tossed a set of OEM front and rear rotors that came off an ST. Those would have been perfect to get every dimension possible.

 

[me32]

crap, I just tossed a set of OEM front and rear rotors that came off an ST. Those would have been perfect to get every dimension possible.

The stock brakes work great

 

[TyphoonFiST]

So, it's time for brake pads and rotors for my FiST. Since I don't track my car, I'm going with R1 Concepts slotted and drilled rotors (just for the looks mainly). I don't have much time to do any in depth research but if someone could post the stock rotor demensions (front and rear) that would be most helpful. I don't want to pay the $323.71 kit price (rotors and brake pads) until I can confirm the rotor size. Many thanks in advance to whoever posts this info.

I will tell you right NOW...Don't go with drilled and slotted rotors....the drilled portion will start to crack outwards from the holes over time. Just go slotted.....get the cryogenic slotted frozen rotors...check out frozenrotors.com...they are in Mn and are a good group of guys.I have had them on a couple of vehicles you may need to call them just an fyi....great choice and no more drilled hole cracking. But then again what do I know?

 

[pelotonracer2]

Link to kit?
Increased diameter front brake rotors (278 millimeters x 23 millimeters) (10.9 inches x 0.91 inches), rear brake rotors (253 millimeters x 10.2 millimeters (9.9 inches x 0.40 inches) with unique calipers and ST-tuned brake pads.

They don't have an ST specific kit stated on their website. I talked to their customer service and they can get the correct rotors. I bought the diamond drilled and slotted premier rotors and PQ pads. Supposedly they are an improvement over the OE brakes regarding stopping power with no noise and significantly less brake pad dust. Not to mention they look really nice. I know people shun drilled rotors, but if they are really all that bad why would they come standard on Mercedes AMGs, Corvettes, Audis and other high end cars like Lambos and Farraris? They do chamfer the holes and slots so they aren't as bad on pads. I had a set of EBC Powerstop drilled/slotted rotors on my Lingenfelter Z06 and brake fade was almost non existant compared to stock (at the track). Price was $323.71 for rotors and pads. I can give part numbers if needed but there isn't a kit #.

 

[pelotonracer2]

I will tell you right NOW...Don't go with drilled and slotted rotors....the drilled portion will start to crack outwards from the holes over time. Just go slotted.....get the cryogenic slotted frozen rotors...check out frozenrotors.com...they are in Mn and are a good group of guys.I have had them on a couple of vehicles you may need to call them just an fyi....great choice and no more drilled hole cracking. But then again what do I know?

I did some research on these and they should be fine. Many people on many different platforms have been getting 50-60k out of the R1 Premier drilled/slotted combo. I've used them many times with only one issue on some cheap ones. My experience is that they work just fine as long as you stay away from the cheapy ones (like found on Ebay for instance) and don't track them in brutal conditions. For every day driving I've never had any problems except that they are a bit harder on pads.

 

[pelotonracer2]

I will tell you right NOW...Don't go with drilled and slotted rotors....the drilled portion will start to crack outwards from the holes over time. Just go slotted.....get the cryogenic slotted frozen rotors...check out frozenrotors.com...they are in Mn and are a good group of guys.I have had them on a couple of vehicles you may need to call them just an fyi....great choice and no more drilled hole cracking. But then again what do I know?

Also, just to add. Most of the cracking that occurs using drilled rotors happens because the holes are either not chamfered at all or not chamfered correctly. Many times it's also because the rotors that are being used are too thin or made of questionable materials. There's alot (and I do mean alot) of cheap crap that might look good but won't last long.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Agreed....I saw no difference in stopping power between drilled and slotted and just slotted also. But it was an improvement over stock that's for sure. Mind you this was not on a FiST.

 

[timboslice]

They don't have an ST specific kit stated on their website. I talked to their customer service and they can get the correct rotors. I bought the diamond drilled and slotted premier rotors and PQ pads. Supposedly they are an improvement over the OE brakes regarding stopping power with no noise and significantly less brake pad dust. Not to mention they look really nice. I know people shun drilled rotors, but if they are really all that bad why would they come standard on Mercedes AMGs, Corvettes, Audis and other high end cars like Lambos and Farraris? They do chamfer the holes and slots so they aren't as bad on pads. I had a set of EBC Powerstop drilled/slotted rotors on my Lingenfelter Z06 and brake fade was almost non existant compared to stock (at the track). Price was $323.71 for rotors and pads. I can give part numbers if needed but there isn't a kit #.

What are the part numbers for the rotors?

 

[Holyfenix]

For best stopping power I would go with standard non-slotted or drilled rotors. All slotting and drilling do is keep the rotors cool longer under continuous heavy brake use, like on a track. If you just drive your FiSt around town I would get standard. More contact=better stopping. The vents in rotors do a fine job of keeping everything cool for day to day driving. If you are installing yourself make sure you check the rotors for out of round first.

 

[pelotonracer2]

For best stopping power I would go with standard non-slotted or drilled rotors. All slotting and drilling do is keep the rotors cool longer under continuous heavy brake use, like on a track. If you just drive your FiSt around town I would get standard. More contact=better stopping. The vents in rotors do a fine job of keeping everything cool for day to day driving. If you are installing yourself make sure you check the rotors for out of round first.

I think R1s improved stopping power claim come from the pads. I just really like the "look" of drilled rotors inside the wheels. That is the only reason I am switching (that and it's time for a pad change, might as well do it all now since the rotors will need to be removed and turned anyway).

 

[me32]

I think R1s improved stopping power claim come from the pads. I just really like the "look" of drilled rotors inside the wheels. That is the only reason I am switching (that and it's time for a pad change, might as well do it all now since the rotors will need to be removed and turned anyway).

I dought there pads stop better than the OEM track pads.

 

[pelotonracer2]

I dought there pads stop better than the OEM track pads.

While the stock pads are good, I wouldn't say that they are great either. I definitely wouldn't call them "track" pads (I've seen much better performance from a real track pad)... although they are quite "dirty". I'll give the new pads a try. Anything will be better than the OE ones at 2mm of pad left. They are kinda grabby. I will be perfectly happy with similiar braking as stock but with less brake dust. My wheels are a major PITA to keep clean. I should have the new brake rotors and pads in about a week and I'll be sure to put pictures and details on my build thread.

 

[pelotonracer2]

What are the part numbers for the rotors?

Thank you for ordering from R1 Concepts, Inc.!

DATE: 6-May-2016
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REFERENCE #: 499038

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Ordered: 1 Filled: 0 105.17300 PQ Ceramic Brake Pads $51.50 Ship Date:

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[me32]

While the stock pads are good, I wouldn't say that they are great either. I definitely wouldn't call them "track" pads (I've seen much better performance from a real track pad)... although they are quite "dirty". I'll give the new pads a try. Anything will be better than the OE ones at 2mm of pad left. They are kinda grabby. I will be perfectly happy with similiar braking as stock but with less brake dust. My wheels are a major PITA to keep clean. I should have the new brake rotors and pads in about a week and I'll be sure to put pictures and details on my build thread.

I guess it really comes down to what you use the car for. As any real track pads are useless on the street as they dont work untill hot. Imo the st oem so called track pads have been the best balance ive had on oem calipers. The down fall would be the brake dust. So in your case the pads you are planning to try may better suit your needs.

 

[meatloafman69]

Hey there, newb here putting in my two cents. I am in the process of putting new brakes on my FiST at 44,000. I went with EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads F/R and EBC RK series rotors from CARiD. I am not ever planning on Tracking or Autocrossing so I was looking for something less aggressive and less dust. Found out every online store that carries EBC brakes lists #1676 for the front rotors (regardless of series) for FiST when in fact those are for regular Fiesta's. The correct part number for FiST is #1963. Guess what? Nobody carries 1963's or even has that number in their database. Even in EBC's own parts catalogs the 1963's are only listed in their UK catalog, not in the US one. I talked to Brendan Cashman at EBC and he said they are currently manufacturing more but none are available now. I told him that EBC needs to get all theirs retailers to update their databases. So anyway, I am waiting on front rotors yet. I will update once I get everything on.

 

[me32]

Hey there, newb here putting in my two cents. I am in the process of putting new brakes on my FiST at 44,000. I went with EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads F/R and EBC RK series rotors from CARiD. I am not ever planning on Tracking or Autocrossing so I was looking for something less aggressive and less dust. Found out every online store that carries EBC brakes lists #1676 for the front rotors (regardless of series) for FiST when in fact those are for regular Fiesta's. The correct part number for FiST is #1963. Guess what? Nobody carries 1963's or even has that number in their database. Even in EBC's own parts catalogs the 1963's are only listed in their UK catalog, not in the US one. I talked to Brendan Cashman at EBC and he said they are currently manufacturing more but none are available now. I told him that EBC needs to get all theirs retailers to update their databases. So anyway, I am waiting on front rotors yet. I will update once I get everything on.

Good luck. Alot of companies are still confused there is a difference between a regular Fiesta and a ST brake pads