Battery Replacement-How often & which one?

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Is it their 96R-600 model, or one of their lower power (CC/CCA/RC/etc.), 'racing line' models (like their 680)?

My full power, 96R-600 600CCA Odyssey was over 40 lbs.
96R-600 is the part number. I might need to weigh it myself though the weight is FedExs weight and they tend to be pretty accurate since otherwise it leaves money on the table.
 


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I saw recently that Motocraft appears to be making an AGM battery in our group 96R size. Does anyone have any experience with this battery?
I don't see a lot of places online that have it, Walmart shows it here although it's out of stock-
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Motorcraft-BAGM-96R-Automotive-AGM-Battery/1846464898

Motorcraft also put out a video touting the batteries-
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEJ3aTlo53w
I’ll buy one when they’re back in stock at Walmart and report back.
 


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I saw recently that Motocraft appears to be making an AGM battery in our group 96R size. Does anyone have any experience with this battery?
I don't see a lot of places online that have it, Walmart shows it here although it's out of stock-
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Motorcraft-BAGM-96R-Automotive-AGM-Battery/1846464898

Motorcraft also put out a video touting the batteries-
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEJ3aTlo53w
Now that Odyssey has jacked up their price for the 96R-600 so radically, that is not a bad deal. [thumb]

It might even be made by Odyssey under sub-contract for Motorcraft. [dunno]
 


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Only problem is, this battery group size with reverse poles doesn't seem to move. Auto parts stores like Advance do not maintain their battery stock. Nearly all the batteries had been sitting around a year and longer with lower charge levels. Be sure to check the date and check the charge level. There are websites that tell you what the charge level means.

What we don't see, is the ground wire sitting underneath the battery box, exposed to that battery run-off. It rusts, you can't fix that; can only add another some place else to augment it. Had to do it on the prior car when it started to burn-up alternators. The battery in this car and in my prior car sat high. I've never cornered (or accelerated) like a granny and attribute their leakage to regular sloshing. Didn't matter what brand I bought, they've all done it. I will never go back to a leak-acid battery; even if I have to go the route that @TyphoonFiST did.
 


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Only problem is, this battery group size with reverse poles doesn't seem to move. Auto parts stores like Advance do not maintain their battery stock. Nearly all the batteries had been sitting around a year and longer with lower charge levels. Be sure to check the date and check the charge level. There are websites that tell you what the charge level means.

What we don't see, is the ground wire sitting underneath the battery box, exposed to that battery run-off. It rusts, you can't fix that; can only add another some place else to augment it. Had to do it on the prior car when it started to burn-up alternators. The battery in this car and in my prior car sat high. I've never cornered (or accelerated) like a granny and attribute their leakage to regular sloshing. Didn't matter what brand I bought, they've all done it. I will never go back to a leak-acid battery; even if I have to go the route that @TyphoonFiST did.
I'm really happy with the Braille 21lb battery I got for $223 from Tire Rack - it basically fits well in the stock battery box, very slightly higher than the stock battery, You could probably set it in with the stock battery tiedown and it wouldn't go anywhere, The crazy custom tiedown I made was mostly for kicks and a bit overkill with tabs to positively restrain the battery, not out of necessity. Somewhere between 5 and 11 lb lighter than the stock 96R (depending on brand and type - the Motorcraft is listed at 30-32lb depending on who you ask), and much lighter than the Odessey at 40lb

The 21lb is meant for starting V8's, and still has CCA of 550, similar to the stock battery. It only loses out a little on Ah/Reserve Capacity(32Ah vs 50-55 for a flooded 96R), so its a good idea to start the car at least every week or so. And its an AGM with a long cycle life, so it should last a while

I probably could have gone significantly lighter (15 or 17lb which are shorter by about 5/8") and still have a reliable battery for a daily driver, but the 21lb fitting well in the stock battery tray was quite attractive - it just happens to sit well even with the battery tray being weird in the middle. Most of Braille's offerings are right hand positive for some reason - not complaining. I do need to go back and clip/readjust some of the zip ties on the wiring harness, as its a bit of a stretch to get the positive over the terminal.
 


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^^^In Cali I could never see that battery ever being a problem at all.
(Unless one consistently runs it down by playing the sound system with the engine off, or the like.)

In a cold clime, with a winter daily driven car, parked outside overnight, I would not feel very confident with anything less than a full size/capacity, 96R AGM.
 


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I'm located in Calgary Alberta Canada have a a 2015 sill on the original battery but think it is starting to die slowly --- super impressed as date on Battery is March 2015-- So over 8 years and still starts lol. Car was purchased new in July 2015 - 33500 miles 54000 kms on the clock
 


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Sounds like an Energizer battery that was in my Mom's Saturn. But it just sat; barely ever moved. Don't know why that battery resisted sulfation when my FiST batteries have sulfated with far far far far far less sitting.

Seems like:
COLD
* battery has reduced performance
* engine requires more cranking amps
* battery degrades slower
HOT
* battery performs optimally
* engine requires way less cranking amps
* battery degrades faster
 


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I’ve used Odyssey and they are very good. But, I have had zero problems with the Interstate brand. The Interstate are easier to find out in the big bad world. Because a battery rarely fails at a convenient place or time. 69D25573-14A7-41C8-B97C-579E0B4F5485.jpeg
 


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I’ve used Odyssey and they are very good. But, I have had zero problems with the Interstate brand. The Interstate are easier to find out in the big bad world. Because a battery rarely fails at a convenient place or time. View attachment 56734
That particular Interstate battery, the MTP-96R, was going to be my first choice if I didn't get an AGM battery. I have also had good luck with Interstate, and I wish they made an AGM battery in our Group 96R size.
I wanted an AGM battery mainly to avoid the possibility of spilling, because there are a lot of electronics near the battery, and if it spills it's really a nightmare.
 


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I had also seen the Motorcraft 96R AGM battery for our cars shown on a number of websites, but out of stock, for example at Summit Racing and Walmart . I did another search though, and it does seem to be available at Tasca Parts, and at a good price, $188.96 today-
https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-battery-bagm96r
 


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I had also seen the Motorcraft 96R AGM battery for our cars shown on a number of websites, but out of stock, for example at Summit Racing and Walmart . I did another search though, and it does seem to be available at Tasca Parts, and at a good price, $188.96 today-
https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-battery-bagm96r
I just tried to order one. $140 for shipping 😂
 


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That particular Interstate battery, the MTP-96R, was going to be my first choice if I didn't get an AGM battery. I have also had good luck with Interstate, and I wish they made an AGM battery in our 96R group size.
I wanted an AGM battery mainly to avoid the possibility of spilling, because there are a lot of electronics near the battery, and if it spills it's really a nightmare.
Especially the grounds and everything else underneath the battery tray/box.

It's the main reason why I now always go for an AGM (and if they were not soooo $$$$ and otherwise problematic, I would consider one of the lithium featherweights).
 


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I just tried to order one. $140 for shipping 😂
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of, as that puts the price at the same as the Odyssey 96R-600 when you get it shipped for free from Summit Racing/etc. [:(]
 




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