I completely agree with Mattkosem. The Flevas are worth the money no doubt. They're actually a little more comfortable too I think. But at the expense of response(sidewalls seem softer). I do mess around when it rains and when I can get the rear to slide a little it's slow and predictable. I'll say that after being surprised by more expensive tires.. I was more surprised that the Flevas and GMaxRS's were right there with 'em at $50-$70 cheaper per tire. I'll say that in third place the all season GMAX AS-05 blew my mind.. the grip in crappy conditions and hydroplane resistance was pretty crazy. and if GMaxRS's were 80 score of grip and Fleva's 79 point score, the AS-05's would be a solid 75. It's so good. The steering feel with that tire is awesome. I would get rid of them at about 20% tread remaining tho. Just to make sure it's safe in a bad downpour.