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Review: Cobb AccessPort

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I've always been very satisfied with the power output of the Fiesta, but I finally got tired of the variation in power levels on my daily commute-- partly due to heat soak, but mainly I feel like the overboost function does not work like they say it does. Long story short; I called the great guys over at R/T Tuning in Montgomeryville, PA (Greater Philadelphia) to get a Cobb Accessport for my Fiesta ST-- not surprisingly they had it there ready to go, so on my lunch break (because when you work for a performance company you buy car parts on lunch), I went and picked it up.

The Vendor: R/T Tuning

Before I go into the tuner I want to talk more about R/T Tuning; I've been working in the aftermarket automotive industry for a long time, I've dealt with many shops, and my friends have dealt with about the same. So listen up when I say that this is it. R/T Tuning not only has it together, they are killing it. Known throughout the Philadelphia area as your go to for Subaru and Evo work, but perhaps better known for their on point customer service, and knowledgable staff. So if you are in the Greater Philadelphia area-- do not hesitate to check these guys out. https://www.facebook.com/RTTuning

Cobb

Back to the Accessport. This thing is everything it should be-- it's easy to use, affordable, and incredibly well made (except for the mount, which is total crap). I've seen so many variations of flash tunes and piggybacks in my days cause more problems than they fix, that I've almost been turned off of them entirely.

My initial impressions were good, the product is properly packaged, it includes a protective travel case and all the accessories one might/will need to breath new life into their car (whatever it may be).

So what are the cons? Well nothing is perfect, and lucky for you I'm not above telling you what's wrong with a product (Cobb are you listening?).

Most of my gripes come from Cobb's marketing of the Accessport. They make definitive information about the product difficult to track down. Power figures in percentages and things like that. Without being a member here, I probably would have never purchased one. Thankfully I am a member here and you guys kick ass so I did buy one.

Also there are some wonky things that happen post-flash. My biggest note was the fuel range being wrong, and by wrong I mean way wrong! On 2/3rds of a tank it told me my range was 584 miles. One full tank later it's almost back to normal.

Outside of that it's a great product, the hardware short of the included mount is fantastic. Oh yeah, that mount... the one that comes with tape made of bubble gum and was so painfully obviously the same part they include with all Accessports since it literally does not fit inside a Fiesta... ANYWHERE. But I digress, and I will resolve it when I start caring again and stop driving around doing 2500-4500 rpm pulls; which may be a while.

Back to the good-- The Accessport does exactly what it says it will, it effortlessly loads performance software on to your car. Basically from the first time you plug it in, to the first time you put your foot down to feel what it did, is about 15 minutes-- not bad considering some cars require bench flashing that can take up to an hour or more!

The Power... I mean the Maps

Ahh yes, the real reason you're even reading this. So how is the power? It's intoxicating... It's like the first time your parents hand you the keys to a car. The power is so impressive, but once you have it, you want more, and now that you can just load tunes on to your car, you are a few hard parts away from really ruining your front tires in record time. I don't think I had it for a day before I was looking up intercoolers. Having the ability to unlock power so easily is a dangerous thing. So don't say I didn't warn you!

I am running the 93 Octane map because I live in New Jersey and 93 is about $2.60 a gallon. Though I've been really wanting to try the Eco Map, but as my car still hasn't normalized it's fuel range so I will wait till I can put it to the test. I have a couple hundred mile trip planned in July so you may have to wait till then.

Pros

There were a few unexpected pluses with the Cobb AccessPort, one was the car got a little more aggressive sounding; noted not only by me. The interior note is louder, the exhaust just a hair more aggressive, I'm not sure what it did to accomplish this, but it is certainly noticeable and welcomed.

Drivability

A concern when flashing any car is, how will it drive after the flash? I've driven cars ruined by flash tunes, and I've driven cars that seem like completely normal. This tune is the latter, it maintains OEM drivability while adding the power we all desire.

Conclusion

I don't know why I waited so long, but this is how the car should have been. It's lively, and the extra power suits it very well!

But Andrew, you didnt talk about the read outs or anything. Well there's a good reason for that, since the mount that was included is all but useless, unless you like leaving things on your floor to step on, I haven't done any data logging or monitoring of the read outs possible on the AccessPort. Mine is currently tucked away in my glovebox waiting for me to figure out a mounting solution. So stay tuned, I will have more on this soon!.

Thanks for reading!
 


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For your cons, it's worth noting that a power percentage increase is, generally speaking, better than specific listed gains. As cars vary due to manufacturing tolerances, it's generally easier to make a percentage increase than a specific hp/tq increase, and when people don't meet an a specifically advertised hp/tq increase they tend to be upset or feel duped. As for the fuel MTE being off, that's part of the learned memory and is going to be off every single time you reflash because you're wiping it's data out.

There are a few mount solutions out, you'll have to look around to see what suits your needs the best. I have a Pro-Clip A-pillar mount and love it, but there are a few different specific and a multitude of generic mounts, depending on what you're looking for.
 


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You're AVG MPG will be wonky for a while as well. Great review, if there is only one thing you can buy for your FiST , the Accessport should be it.

Here's a few mounting solutions from Amazon. Just screw your magnetic mount on to either of these:

Suction mount to your driver side A-pillar window.

Vent mount. This is what I currently use:
 


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Thanks for the review! The guys at RT are awesome, glad they could help you out.

Most of my gripes come from Cobb's marketing of the Accessport. They make definitive information about the product difficult to track down. Power figures in percentages and things like that. Without being a member here, I probably would have never purchased one. Thankfully I am a member here and you guys kick ass so I did buy one.
That's always a tough one. Dynos are calibrated differently and cars read different power numbers with small changes like the weather. Therefore in our experience, it is better to show a percentage gain because absolute numbers when actually measured will vary by quite a bit.

Also there are some wonky things that happen post-flash. My biggest note was the fuel range being wrong, and by wrong I mean way wrong! On 2/3rds of a tank it told me my range was 584 miles. One full tank later it's almost back to normal.
That is because the ECU is being reset and therefore it needs to recalculate how far the car can travel based on the fuel level measured. It takes about a tank to normalize.

Outside of that it's a great product, the hardware short of the included mount is fantastic. Oh yeah, that mount... the one that comes with tape made of bubble gum and was so painfully obviously the same part they include with all Accessports since it literally does not fit inside a Fiesta... ANYWHERE.
It's hard to find a mount that works in every car! But we are looking at some other options to include in the box. The cool thing is that the AP holster uses a generic 2 t-clip style mount, so you can find tons of mounting options on Amazon or a local electronics store.

Ian
 


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For your cons, it's worth noting that a power percentage increase is, generally speaking, better than specific listed gains. As cars vary due to manufacturing tolerances, it's generally easier to make a percentage increase than a specific hp/tq increase, and when people don't meet an a specifically advertised hp/tq increase they tend to be upset or feel duped. As for the fuel MTE being off, that's part of the learned memory and is going to be off every single time you reflash because you're wiping it's data out.

There are a few mount solutions out, you'll have to look around to see what suits your needs the best. I have a Pro-Clip A-pillar mount and love it, but there are a few different specific and a multitude of generic mounts, depending on what you're looking for.
Fully aware of the variation in output levels across dynos and such, I actually write web content for performance products (I'm in marketing), and run into the dilemma of advertised numbers a lot. Our solution has been crank power; We found that by advertising percentages we confuse consumers. The first question is 15% of what? how much is 15%? because the reality is that they - the end user (and me) - isn't going to do the math, partly because they don't have base dyno numbers to start with. It's a balancing act of who do you appease, but in the end we find its more beneficial to all parties to just post gains, which should be relative to a degree. Cobb posting percentages is just a hassle in my opinion. I understand the reasoning behind it, but think it turns away a lot of customers, as most people can draw their own conclusion. Sadly there will always be that one guy that throws a fit about his numbers being lower.

Yeah I know the computer resets it, but a warning somewhere in the literature would be nice, luckily I had seen something about the Fuel Range before I got my AP, but had I not seen that I would have ran out of gas. I flashed the car on a 1/4 tank and it told me I had about 100 some miles, I cant remember exactly but it didn't seem bizarre. What did seem weird is that I was on E with 45 miles left of range. Is it a big problem? No, but it's something worth noting to new customers.

You're AVG MPG will be wonky for a while as well. Great review, if there is only one thing you can buy for your FiST , the Accessport should be it.

Here's a few mounting solutions from Amazon. Just screw your magnetic mount on to either of these:

Suction mount to your driver side A-pillar window.

Vent mount. This is what I currently use:

Thanks! those look great! I really want it mounted to the glass and as much out of the way as possible.

Thanks for the review! The guys at RT are awesome, glad they could help you out.

That's always a tough one. Dynos are calibrated differently and cars read different power numbers with small changes like the weather. Therefore in our experience, it is better to show a percentage gain because absolute numbers when actually measured will vary by quite a bit.

That is because the ECU is being reset and therefore it needs to recalculate how far the car can travel based on the fuel level measured. It takes about a tank to normalize.

It's hard to find a mount that works in every car! But we are looking at some other options to include in the box. The cool thing is that the AP holster uses a generic 2 t-clip style mount, so you can find tons of mounting options on Amazon or a local electronics store.

Ian

Thanks Ian,

As for the Dyno's see above.

I have been researching the mounts and come up with a couple ideas, but every time I do a good pull I forget all about that. ;) Though if the Cobb screen orientation could be rotated it would be awesome to mount it up by the rear view mirror sideways. Is this a possibility?

While I have your attention Cobb, have you ever heard of VAGCOM for the VW/Audi world? and is it possible to reprogram things within our cars with AccessTuner? For instance, brake boost pressure.




Thanks for the comments guys!
 


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I have been researching the mounts and come up with a couple ideas, but every time I do a good pull I forget all about that. ;) Though if the Cobb screen orientation could be rotated it would be awesome to mount it up by the rear view mirror sideways. Is this a possibility?

While I have your attention Cobb, have you ever heard of VAGCOM for the VW/Audi world? and is it possible to reprogram things within our cars with AccessTuner? For instance, brake boost pressure.
Everything is possible ;) Being able to rotate the screen is something we have talked about internally, so it could be available in an update one day! In our experience, German car "coding" (chunks of programming changes for features) is much different than the EcoBoost platform.

Ian
 




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