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Blend Door Actuator Gear Upgrade Project

aaron240

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I measured and modeled the existing gear that typically breaks with the hope that i could make a part that was robust enough to outlast the factory piece and limit the amount of time you have to swap out the assemblies. This prototype 3D printed part is made from carbon fiber reinforced nylon 12 and printed using SLS. I will install this in my fiesta ST and provide some feedback as to if it solves the issues we have all experienced with those blend door actuators failing.
 


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I measured and modeled the existing gear that typically breaks with the hope that i could make a part that was robust enough to outlast the factory piece and limit the amount of time you have to swap out the assemblies. This prototype 3D printed part is made from carbon fiber reinforced nylon 12 and printed using SLS. I will install this in my fiesta ST and provide some feedback as to if it solves the issues we have all experienced with those blend door actuators failing.
Which of the actuators is that for? I believe there are three, one for the mode, where the air goes, one for the blend, the temperature, and one for fresh or recirculate.
 


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Which of the actuators is that for? I believe there are three, one for the mode, where the air goes, one for the blend, the temperature, and one for fresh or recirculate.
..and I believe that ALL THREE of mine are currently clacking like mad at startup! [:(]
 


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Love this conceptually. It's so interesting that everyones last for different lengths of time, which makes me feel like you'd really need to test...20-30 of these and get feedback on the longevity for each.
 


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https://www.fiestastforum.com/threa...-part-numbers-video-install.22458/post-436100

Memory serving, there may be a little potentiometer type system that is supposed to allow the computer to learn then track the blend door's location. I think what happens is that potentiometer wears out or becomes unreliable; causing the HVAC computer to repeatedly grind the gears until they eventually break.

For the driver side one, so far I've had good luck out of the Dorman.
When I though it had failed, it hadn't. I just failed to install it correctly so the drive gear eventually popped-out.
Stuck it back in, installed it correctly this time and been good since.
I suspect Dorman improved the mechanism for tracking the gear's position.
 


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got some no-name from Rock to install this afternoon. 1/4" T15 and gyro spinner, and an upcoming surgeon appt for what remains of my right shoulder....it's got the motocraft-type short part# CYH5E, but is missing the long ford part# from the original. Can't be too many different actual manufacturers of these...
 


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https://www.fiestastforum.com/threa...-part-numbers-video-install.22458/post-436100

Memory serving, there may be a little potentiometer type system that is supposed to allow the computer to learn then track the blend door's location. I think what happens is that potentiometer wears out or becomes unreliable; causing the HVAC computer to repeatedly grind the gears until they eventually break.

For the driver side one, so far I've had good luck out of the Dorman.
When I though it had failed, it hadn't. I just failed to install it correctly so the drive gear eventually popped-out.
Stuck it back in, installed it correctly this time and been good since.
I suspect Dorman improved the mechanism for tracking the gear's position.
I have a hard time rationizing how the feedback sensor could cause these failures. The computer can't "grind" the gears. All it can do is turn the motor off and on. This would have to happen hundreds of thousands of times to induce a fatigue failure. And in gearsets, fatigue failure occurs on the pinion gear, not the bull gear because of the difference in the number of teeth. The bigger output drive gear is the one that always fails. The pinions also fail sometimes due the the trapped debris. So far, I have only had two of the three actuator types fail. The Drivers side and Passenger side (the one behind he glove box). Both look identical from the outside. The keys of the electrical connector are also identical. The one difference is the number of pins in the electrical connector. There are five on the driver side and two on the passenger side. The Driver side actuator has a position sensor on the Output gear (that is what the additional pins are for). I have had teeth break on the output gear on both actuators, so I doubt the feedback sensor is to blame. The teeth just aren't strong enough.
I have two ST's. Between them I have replaced three driver side and two passenger side. The passenger side on the 2016 is starting to clack, now, too. So for my small data set, the probability of failure is the same for both sides (with and without feed back sensor).
I have had similar luck as you with the Dorman replacement. I suspect Dorman is using tougher material for the gears.
Anyway, it seems like the Dorman replacement is better than the Motorcraft.
 




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