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Upgraded turbo just arrived!

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Thanks, all the encouragement really helps as much of what I have done is hard and dirty work and I am supposedly disabled, 40% just for my shoulders, then there is my back, knees, brain.....but this keeps me going:)

Tomorrow I will get the rear brakes done except parking brake cable mounted to the WW calipers, I still have not figured that one out yet but I will later on.

The only real thing holding me back from getting on the road will be the front brakes as I can wait until the end of the week and get the billet caliper mounts in the mail or I can design and make some temp mounts which would take considerable effort but get me out on the road a few days sooner........

I also realized today I have to find a way to remove the stock water to oil cooler, all I can figure out for now it is some kind of 1/4 turn fastener, then figure out a way to mount the Mocal Tstat plate I am using to feed the Setrab oil cooler. I can then also run a much bigger oil filter but right now I have to removed a number of things just to change the oil as just not enough room to take it off easily.

I might just get a Mocal remote filter mount and do that, then oil changes would be easier than stock and I can run a really big filter.
 


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In for results as well! Only thing that kills me is the lack of driving/experience you had with the car prior to ripping it all apart, makes it tough to tell how much of a difference everything makes.
 


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I have built and driven hundreds of thousands of miles in all kinds of cars, street, track, mountains, autocross.....and I fell for the ST in the first 2 blocks, really, I love it. It is quick stock, handles amazingly well, looks great, very solid, easy to work on....

I can make a really fast judgement and of course have read all the rave reviews and agree with 99% of what has been said.

There will be less gain than many cars I have done because the car is simply brilliant to start with which makes it much more time consuming, costly and challenging but I have a feeling this little bugger is going to be pretty intense for WWD (wrong wheel drive, which I love by the way:)
 


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This is coming from a guy that a few years back had laid out plans for stuffing a built LS in the back seat of a Scion TC that was already tricked out and fast, had a 2000 Miata here for a LS6 swap track car, built a C5 vette with C6 world challenge body, 2500 lbs, developing one of the first built LS7's, first turbo 1zzz matrix in the world, stock looking Forester that I passed a full race STI when still on street tires....

I love this car more and more, not sure it will top my 10 years in 510 Datsuns though, that was the most fun and only towards the end remotely fast by todays standards.
 


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In for results as well! Only thing that kills me is the lack of driving/experience you had with the car prior to ripping it all apart, makes it tough to tell how much of a difference everything makes.
Upside is SourSkittle will have a good example on a more stockish car for a good DD comparo.. Raam's car is stock like a nascar imho not a bad thing but it is a one off with all the work done to the chassis. Not a bad thing at all as the Mona Lisa is a one off too.. Lets hope both cars really shine with this cost effective mod...
 


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I have 4 years left in the Navy to retire, then off to another career. It will be a long time until I officially retire. Maybe I should save even more and quit spending car money...yeah idk about that, lol. We only live once right? Gotta have a little fun while I'm fairly young.
 


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I was thinking yesterday about how bad my stock 16k mile (maybe 17k mile) air filter is going to do on the dyno, lol. These cars live or die by tuning and for right now, I'm going at it in the "worst case" direction.

Like I've said in other threads, I could easily let Rick make the numbers and simply put "2XX-whp on a tbe/intercooler/intake car" next to it to sell it. But I see a bigger picture, so showing what "Joe BrokMan" will make by bolting it up to a car with what I feel are minimal mods for a turbo like this is "truth in advertising". A lot of mis-leading claiming have been made about mods for these cars ( we all know which intercooler claim I like to point to, lol ). I'm just trying to practice what I've been preaching about full discloser.

Even pumaspeed leaves some to be desired when disclosing what is done to a car, and its not really there fault, but... BHP, HP (crank horse power ), whp ( with what ever Din is ).

Wheels, brakes, engine oil. It all makes a difference, and if your looking to post a impressive dyno number; there are a lot of tricks.

That being said, I want to show what my car with no tricks makes. It likely will not be impressive, but it will be the truth. I've actually listen in detail on the datalog thread my mods down to everything before this turbo mod came about and I'm holding myself back on purpose to show what it can do for a guy with just $750 and a couple hours of wrenching ( assuming you already have a TBE ).

Rick and I both agree, porting the stock manifold is a "must do". Weather you pay someone or do it yourself, but aside from the time, its basically free ( and your turbo is going to be off anyway ).

I am excited, as everyone is, to see what Ricks car will do.
 


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^I'm also excited skittle but to be completely honest thanks to all Ricks hard work and innovation. Well his fist is going to be well optimized for that modded stock turbo and going beyond it unless it just shocks everyone with its potential.
Whereas your car should show more of a real world result for basic bolt on cars.

All that said I don't have a stake in this game as I put Chelsea back to stock yesterday and will be selling her very shortly. So ill just lurk watching with keen interest the progression of this fun to drive little wwd platform[thumb]
 


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Thanks, all the encouragement really helps as much of what I have done is hard and dirty work and I am supposedly disabled, 40% just for my shoulders, then there is my back, knees, brain.....but this keeps me going:)

Tomorrow I will get the rear brakes done except parking brake cable mounted to the WW calipers, I still have not figured that one out yet but I will later on.

The only real thing holding me back from getting on the road will be the front brakes as I can wait until the end of the week and get the billet caliper mounts in the mail or I can design and make some temp mounts which would take considerable effort but get me out on the road a few days sooner........

I also realized today I have to find a way to remove the stock water to oil cooler, all I can figure out for now it is some kind of 1/4 turn fastener, then figure out a way to mount the Mocal Tstat plate I am using to feed the Setrab oil cooler. I can then also run a much bigger oil filter but right now I have to removed a number of things just to change the oil as just not enough room to take it off easily.

I might just get a Mocal remote filter mount and do that, then oil changes would be easier than stock and I can run a really big filter.
Rick, from what I can tell, this water-oil intercooler looks similar to the Boss 302 one. It looks like this IC is installed by removing the oil filter threaded fitting from the block, and then installing the IC by installing a replacement oil filter threaded fitting torqued to 43 Ft-Lbs. Here is a line to an American Muscle site that shows the installation. Removal should be the reverse instructions. HTH.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-boss-oil-cooler-1112-install.html
 


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If I could get the stock turbo to run a 13.5@105ish traps I'd seriously consider not swapping for a non-oem unit!
 


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If I could get the stock turbo to run a 13.5@105ish traps I'd seriously consider not swapping for a non-oem unit!
I don't think you are going to pick up 6mph and 6/10 without upgrading the turbo even on a E50 tune and ALL the bolt on's and full weight reduction. Im not saying its impossible just improbable. You could get into 13s with slicks and a good 60' time but the mph still wont be there. If anything you will loose mph due to higher rolling resistance from the low psi slicks. I hope you prove me wrong cause that would be awesome to see a stock turbo car deep in the 13s.
 


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I don't think you are going to pick up 6mph and 6/10 without upgrading the turbo even on a E50 tune and ALL the bolt on's and full weight reduction. Im not saying its impossible just improbable. You could get into 13s with slicks and a good 60' time but the mph still wont be there. If anything you will loose mph due to higher rolling resistance from the low psi slicks. I hope you prove me wrong cause that would be awesome to see a stock turbo car deep in the 13s.
Well before the catless DP and stage 3 tune I went 14.1@99.XX, I'd imagine as it sits it has a 13.9in it with a flat 100 trap. Once my tuner frees up a bit were going to play with an e85 tune as well.
 


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