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After a long decision listening to the numerous sound clips, I narrowed my choice down to the FSWERKS and the Cobb CBE exhausts. As these are both 300 series stainless, and only the tip will be seen from the back of the car, I decided to purchase the FSWERKS exhaust and polish the tip. I frankly got tired of waiting for Mountune, Cobb wants too much for their exhaust, and FSWERKS offered a 10% off coupon with no shipping costs, since they're local to me.
 


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Picked up my FSWERKS exhaust this Friday. I was able to compare the Cobb and the FSWERKS exhaust side by side, and cannot see spending an extra $300.00 on the Cobb.

I'm realy impressed with the quality of the welds on the FSWERKS exhaust. I'm going to passivate the welds, then alkaline clean the tubes at work. Passivation protects the welds from corroding. Yes, stainless steel can corrode. I'll brush the welds with a stainless steel brush, then passivate the tubes, and then alkaline clean them.



I'll install this exhaust next weekend.

As you can see, the tip is licely polished and laser identified.


 


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My exact point. I like Cobbs stuff but I don't want to spend the extra money if there's something out there that's just as good. That's why I'm trying you figure out which other ones are worth it.
 


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Fswerks makes great stuff. Can you post a video clip when you get it installed?
 


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Will do. I'll do a before and after video clip, placing everything in the same positions. I'm also going to do some logging of the Levels FMIC.
 


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Will do. I'll do a before and after video clip, placing everything in the same positions. I'm also going to do some logging of the Levels FMIC.
What made you pick fswerks? Just the price difference? And what sound are you going for? Loud or subtle? I want something on the subtle side. I heard Cobbs is subtle but still crackles and pops.
 


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I got my laptop and a good pair of ear buds, opened up several windows for each exhaust company. I narrowed down my choice to FSWERKS or Cobb. The rest sounded too loud and raspy. Both exhausts are 304 stainless which has the best resonance and corrosion resistance. Then I asked myself was the Cobb worth $300.00 more? The last plus was the 10% off, and local pickup.
 


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That sounds like a good deal. And it sounds like we want the same kind of exhaust. I'll look into fswerks also. Thanks man.

I just got on their site and love the sound. I think I also found my exhaust system and saved a good amount of cash. Thanks again man.

What downpipe are you planning to buy if you don't mind me asking?
 


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I'm either going to keep the OEM downpipe, but purchase a replacement and gut the original, or purchase the Cobb cat back downpipe. Either way, I'll eventually need to replace the original downpipe to pass CARB smog testing in So Cal.
 


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What made you pick fswerks? Just the price difference? And what sound are you going for? Loud or subtle? I want something on the subtle side. I heard Cobbs is subtle but still crackles and pops.
If you want subtle, cross the MBRP off the list right now.
 


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If you want subtle, cross the MBRP off the list right now.
Oh yeah? Thanks. I want something like the Abrath. Great sounding but only when you want it to be. I'm leaning more toward the FSwerks one now, the more I listen to it. But any more suggestions would be appreciate!

I'm leaning toward Cobb and FSwerks at the moment.
 


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What lessard.dcj said. It is quiet when cruising but under load it's loud. I ordered a camera and will do some recordings this week if it's not raining.
 


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That's the thing, if you guys are saying it's loud then I'm going to think it's really loud. And that's what I don't want, at any time.

Every click from the FSwerks and Cobb sounds perfect. Not loud, but still rumbles under full load. That's what I'm looking for.
 


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The MBRP exhaust also sounded too loud to me. I almost picked it. Until I listened to it on a good set of speakers. Too much resonance for my preference.
 


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Installed my FSWERK exhaust today. I started by getting the car up on jackstands. I wanted to get the car up as high as possible. I have two 2 ton Craftmans jacks and two 3 ton Craftmans jack stands and two hydraulic jacks, one is a heavy duty Craftmans jack and the other is Harbor Freight low profile jack. To get the car 18" off the ground, requires jacking the car up with both jacks. Each jack stand has the capability of supporting the ST at the pinch points without touching the pinch points.





The reason I supported the rear at the jack points (the pinch points behind little doors) was to let the rear tires droop. This made getting the old muffler out easier.

There are only two fasteners holding the exhaust in place. There are four elastomer hangers that hold up the exhaust. The FSWERKS installation instructions recommend spraying the hangers and the fasteners at the down pipe with a penetrating oil, one hour after the engine has cooled. I used PBblaster. Even after a one hour soak, the two fasteners were really hard to move. They are 15mm nuts. I ended up having to take a harbor freight ratcheting breaker bar, with a 15mm six point long socket, and push on the ratchet with my foot to break those suckers loose. Then there are the rubber hangers. I used a combination of PBBlaster, a large channel lock, and a small phillips head screw driver to pop them loose.

FSWERKS provides two replacement fasteners and washers for the downpipe nuts, which is really thoughtful of them. The OEM ones got slightly rounded, so I was glad I didn't need to get replacements. The next step, per the instructions was to pull the cross brace off the underside of the body, but I left it in place.

I then took a small air grinder to cut the exhaust into two pieces.





After the cut, I removed the cross brace, and dropped the front of the exhaust out of the car.



Putting the FSWERKS exhaust in was so much easier, I was able to use my 3/8" air ratchet to attach the mid pipe. I used silicone grease to grease all the exhaust hangers. This made everything slide right into place. An adjustment of the midipipe on the hangers to center it underneath the body was really easy with the silicone grease. I inserted the pipe which goes over the rear brace, along with a hard clamp.





The muffler was a little difficult to get into the proper place, I used the Harbor Freight jack and a couple of small pieces of 2 x 4s to hoist it up to where it needed to sit, then connected it to the bent pipe, along with anither hard clamp. All clamps were loose at this time.



I intalled the twin exhaust tip, and added a shop rag to locate the tips so that they didn't touch the opening and be centered.



Then I tightened the clamp that joins the bent pipe to the muffler, then the clamp that connects the mid pipe to the bent pipe. I removed the rag, and then tightened the light duty clamp.



After that, I pulled my rear wheels, touched up my rear calipers with red duplicolor caliper spray paint. I cleaned my wheels, both sides, and sprayed them with outlast wheel protector, and then put them back on. I dropped the car and changed my clothes and went for a little spin. Sounds great. I'll post before and after videos tomorrow.
 


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Nice. Thanks for giving us the details on your install. Good tips [wrenchin]
That exhaust would be on my short list if I lived stateside.
Keen to hear the vids.
 


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Great job on the install and detailed writeup.
 


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