Best Race Suspension and Exhausts

[Taz]

Seeing that I'm new to this model of car, and seeing that this is probably one of first things I'll upgrade, I'm wondering what the five best race suspensions you can get for the FiST and why?

 

[Jabbit]

What generation? "Best race suspension" is a tough question. What's your budget? Any catback won't really add noticeable power but will make great noises.

 

[Taz]

What generation? "Best race suspension" is a tough question. What's your budget? Any catback won't really add noticeable power but will make great noises.

Sorry, my oversight. It'll be a Mk7. As for budget, for now any budget. I'll decide what I'm willing to stretch or save to nearer the time.

 

[Jabbit]

I do track days and I'm planning on running ISC coilovers with updated dampers and springs. Also stickier tires. Will run that way probably all of 2021 then reassess on the off-season.

 

[Dpro]

Their are a number of guys that use MeisterR‘s . For all out Track the GT1 is considered the go too. You should look them up they are pretty big on your side of the pond with BTC’ wins under their belt.
I will probably be putting on the ZetaCRD’s from Meister for doing some track days but also street driving. I know TemecFist went with the GT1’s and does quite a bit of track driving.

 

[kevinatfms]

Moton 2 ways or 3 ways or AST 5300's. Nothing even comes close. They are the pinnacle of road racing performance but at a somewhat ridiculous cost. A set of 3 ways with the bells and whistles will cost more than a used Fiesta ST....

For a reasonable budget, Feal 441/442/443's, Fortune Auto 510's and KW V3's are available. The Fortune Autos are one of the hot ticket items right now and Nick Carl has set records at NYST with his 510 equipped ST.

Budget, Bilstein B14's. Monotube fronts with twin tube rears. Not ideal but budget and the work with company backing. Spring rate is a bit light also but you can add some more rate with sway bars front and rear if you still have too much body roll.

Spring/Shock Combo - Bilstein B8's or Koni Sports w/ Swift or ST springs seem to be the ticket. I run the B8/Swift combo and its a set and forget combo that just works.

 

[the duke]

Stock. You're not a good enough driver to need beyond the OEM hardware.

 

[Dpro]

Moton 2 ways or 3 ways or AST 5300's. Nothing even comes close. They are the pinnacle of road racing performance but at a somewhat ridiculous cost. A set of 3 ways with the bells and whistles will cost more than a used Fiesta ST....

For a reasonable budget, Feal 441/442/443's, Fortune Auto 510's and KW V3's are available. The Fortune Autos are one of the hot ticket items right now and Nick Carl has set records at NYST with his 510 equipped ST.

Budget, Bilstein B14's. Monotube fronts with twin tube rears. Not ideal but budget and the work with company backing. Spring rate is a bit light also but you can add some more rate with sway bars front and rear if you still have too much body roll.

Spring/Shock Combo - Bilstein B8's or Koni Sports w/ Swift or ST springs seem to be the ticket. I run the B8/Swift combo and its a set and forget combo that just works.

True but most people hear asking about track setups are not going to spend their money on Moton or AST . Unless you are going for full on race spec car that is competing at a national competition level with sponsors and are ready to drop 100k or more into your car.
Feal are not bad but I seriously would put the MeisterR above them as MeisterR has touring Car championship wins they can attest too. Again thats a UK thing not a U.S. thing and he is in the UK. Fortune are great.

KW I would not recommend after owning ST. KW for our cars all use progressive springs.

He could go for a spring shock combo but it sound like he was asking for something more serious but perhaps not too over the top.

Stock. You're not a good enough driver to need beyond the OEM hardware.

Umm thats a rather bold assumption to make. Just because he is new to the chassis may not tell you he is new to driving or has not competed in other platforms . Or have a lot of experience. The statement borders on insulting . Sure one could say the suspension stock is exceptional but it has its area’s that can be improved.

 

[the duke]

Umm thats a rather bold assumption to make. Just because he is new to the chassis may not tell you he is new to driving or has not competed in other platforms . Or have a lot of experience. The statement borders on insulting . Sure one could say the suspension stock is exceptional but it has its area’s that can be improved.

It is, but it's also more than likely correct. If he has a lot of experience he wouldn't generalize with "best" or other superlatives. He just got the car and is immediately modifying it with zero reguard to setting a baseline.

 

[e1_griego]

True but most people hear asking about track setups are not going to spend their money on Moton or AST . Unless you are going for full on race spec car that is competing at a national competition level with sponsors and are ready to drop 100k or more into your car.
Feal are not bad but I seriously would put the MeisterR above them as MeisterR has touring Car championship wins they can attest too. Again thats a UK thing not a U.S. thing and he is in the UK. Fortune are great.

KW I would not recommend after owning ST. KW for our cars all use progressive springs.

He could go for a spring shock combo but it sound like he was asking for something more serious but perhaps not too over the top.

ASTs seems to be pretty fragile in street use. I didn't realize Moton was still doing stuff but I know they got acquired by AST a few years ago.

JRZ, Motion Control (MCS), Penske -- plenty of high end options exist though most don't bolt into a fiesta. If you have enough money they'll build you whatever you want.

MCS does have an application, though:https://www.turnology.com/tech-stor...ling-motion-control-suspension-2-way-dampers/

 

[Taz]

Moton 2 ways or 3 ways or AST 5300's. Nothing even comes close. They are the pinnacle of road racing performance but at a somewhat ridiculous cost. A set of 3 ways with the bells and whistles will cost more than a used Fiesta ST....

For a reasonable budget, Feal 441/442/443's, Fortune Auto 510's and KW V3's are available. The Fortune Autos are one of the hot ticket items right now and Nick Carl has set records at NYST with his 510 equipped ST.

Budget, Bilstein B14's. Monotube fronts with twin tube rears. Not ideal but budget and the work with company backing. Spring rate is a bit light also but you can add some more rate with sway bars front and rear if you still have too much body roll.

Spring/Shock Combo - Bilstein B8's or Koni Sports w/ Swift or ST springs seem to be the ticket. I run the B8/Swift combo and its a set and forget combo that just works.

I like the look of those KW V3's. They're apparently really good without having to pay out silly money. I've been looking and I can also get them for a pretty good price on the Net. How much do they lower you?

 

[Taz]

Umm thats a rather bold assumption to make. Just because he is new to the chassis may not tell you he is new to driving or has not competed in other platforms . Or have a lot of experience. The statement borders on insulting . Sure one could say the suspension stock is exceptional but it has its area’s that can be improved.

Thanks. Actually I'm an ex-biker (including sports bikes), and I find driving cars kinda "pedestrian" compared to riding motorcycles. So yeah, I know how to cope despite the crash, which wasn't anything to do with my driving ability.

 

[Dpro]

It is, but it's also more than likely correct. If he has a lot of experience he wouldn't generalize with "best" or other superlatives. He just got the car and is immediately modifying it with zero reguard to setting a baseline.

Ah ya read belowLike I said earlier do assume just because they ask generalized questions about what suspension might be good.

Thanks. Actually I'm an ex-biker (including sports bikes), and I find driving cars kinda "pedestrian" compared to riding motorcycles. So yeah, I know how to cope despite the crash, which wasn't anything to do with my driving ability.

Ya D Resonant here is a sport bike rider that built his car to replace his bike, He has a 2015 that he put a Revo S242 on and he is running MeisterR’s and is way into the whole weight reduction game as well. One hell of a driver I might add.

 

[the duke]

Ah ya read belowLike I said earlier do assume just because they ask generalized questions about what suspension might be good.








Ya D Resonant here is a sport bike rider that built his car to replace his bike, He has a 2015 that he put a Revo S242 on and he is running MeisterR’s and is way into the whole weight reduction game as well. One hell of a driver I might add.

I'm confused.

 

[Dpro]

I'm confused.

If you confused maybe you should not be posting at all. I quoted the OP‘s response to my post were he shows he is versed at handling coming from riding sport bikes amongst others.
He states the stock car feels quite pedestrian because of that.
Clearly it proves what I said about you assuming stuff just because you think without knowing.
Perhaps you have never ridden a motorcyle they handle pretty damn well and teach people a lot about cornering and apex’s aka how to drive.

 

[the duke]

If you confused maybe you should not be posting at all. I quoted the OP‘s response to my post were he shows he is versed at handling coming from riding sport bikes amongst others.
He states the stock car feels quite pedestrian because of that.
Clearly it proves what I said about you assuming stuff just because you think without knowing.
Perhaps you have never ridden a motorcyle they handle pretty damn well and teach people a lot about cornering and apex’s aka how to drive.

He rode (Rides?) a motorcycle. That's all he said. He didn't say he raced/races motorcycles, he didn't say he raced/races cars, and all he said was he rode. Riding a motorcycle doesn't make you an authority on "handling". If that were the case there wouldn't be an "R" tax on sport bikes and my insurance would be a 1/5 of what is actually is due to squids thinking they're all Marquez or Rossi. Riding a motorcycle teaches fuck all about proper track/line theory. Hell, most motorcycle riders don't even understanding counter-steering.

I ride motorcycles. I have been on plenty of bikes from mopeds, to dressers, to full on Ducatis super bikes. I'm aware how motorcycles handle.

 

[Dpro]

He rode (Rides?) a motorcycle. That's all he said. He didn't say he raced/races motorcycles, he didn't say he raced/races cars, and all he said was he rode. Riding a motorcycle doesn't make you an authority on "handling". If that were the case there wouldn't be an "R" tax on sport bikes and my insurance would be a 1/5 of what is actually is due to squids thinking they're all Marquez or Rossi. Riding a motorcycle teaches fuck all about proper track/line theory. Hell, most motorcycle riders don't even understanding counter-steering.

I ride motorcycles. I have been on plenty of bikes from mopeds, to dressers, to full on Ducatis super bikes. I'm aware how motorcycles handle.

t I have my opinion you have yours. You don’t know him its perfectly normal for a person new to certain vehicle to wonder what suspension is available and works for that . If they do not read ahead of time they will most likely ask. That does not automatically make them incapable of driving the car beyond its stock suspension lol. Like I said before and you are doing it yet again above you seem to want to make assumptions.
Anyways I am done going back and forth with you over it.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

What generation? "Best race suspension" is a tough question. What's your budget? Any catback won't really add noticeable power but will make great noises.

NOT all Catback exhausts make good noise* That's like saying all farts smell the same!

 

[TemecFist]

True but most people hear asking about track setups are not going to spend their money on Moton or AST . Unless you are going for full on race spec car that is competing at a national competition level with sponsors and are ready to drop 100k or more into your car.
Feal are not bad but I seriously would put the MeisterR above them as MeisterR has touring Car championship wins they can attest too. Again thats a UK thing not a U.S. thing and he is in the UK. Fortune are great.

KW I would not recommend after owning ST. KW for our cars all use progressive springs.

He could go for a spring shock combo but it sound like he was asking for something more serious but perhaps not too over the top.



Umm thats a rather bold assumption to make. Just because he is new to the chassis may not tell you he is new to driving or has not competed in other platforms . Or have a lot of experience. The statement borders on insulting . Sure one could say the suspension stock is exceptional but it has its area’s that can be improved.

All of this is exactly true. Also dont forget the fact that most people do not know how to properly adjust a 3 way set up. Unless you have an onboard data logger to tell you exactly what's going on, then you are basically guessing as to how to adjust the suspension, and considering a 3 way is alot easier to mess up than a 2 way, most people will wind up incorrectly adjusting their dampers making their car handle worse than even the stock suspension. The GT1's are pretty hard to beat. Just opt for the Swift springs (dont go super hard on spring rates) and they will be more than what you need.

 

[TemecFist]

It is, but it's also more than likely correct. If he has a lot of experience he wouldn't generalize with "best" or other superlatives. He just got the car and is immediately modifying it with zero reguard to setting a baseline.

How do you set a baseline?