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HP upgrades by cost, including labor?
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Question on step 2, buying used Accessport. Can/or should you delete all the files that were originally on the Accessport? Or are you starting with a blank slate when you buy it when it is “uninstalled”, just like buying a new AP? Is there risk to buying a used one such as potential damage/misuse or are they pretty bulletproof? Thanks
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I think im also addicted to thee STs, i don't have another car in my price range i'd rather have, i love my FIST. If this one exploded tomorrow, i'd buy another one to replace it.
A used AP should be unmarried, that unpairs it from a specific car and allows it to be paired to a new car. It can only be paired to one car at a time, make sure if you buy used that they send you a picture of the "unmarried" screen.
A used AP, even after being unmarried, could have two types of files on it, depending on how much the previous owner deleted before selling:
(1) OTS or "canned" tunes - these are the same ones anyone can download for free from the Cobb website - you get options for 91 and 93 gas and also valet tune, eco tune, a few other options iirc...these tunes will work for any Fiesta as long as it has the proper hardware, which is designated by the "stages" 0,1,2, and 3.
You might also find other "canned" tunes that work on any car as long as the hardware/fuel is right...many tuners sell a canned tune, these are beneficial, just make sure it's canned and not custom...Stratified, Dizzy, many other sell these, they are usually cheap, like under $100.
(2) Custom tunes - these are tunes that were purchased and made specifically for a certain car. They take time to build are more expensive; the owner sends logs to the tuner who uses them to tweak the tune, and then sends it back to the owner, who loads it, tries it out, does more logs, repeat. Usually a custom tune takes 3-7 of these exchanges if it's done over e-mail. Of course it can also be done in person, though e-tuning gets great results these days. But even if you have the same hardware as the car that previously used these tunes, I would be wary of using a customized tune from another car, as there are all sorts of variables that were taken into account when building that map/tune, and it is likely not safe/optimal for your particular car.
If I were buying a used AP (I did actually) I'd just wipe all the tunes and start over downloading the free ones myself, just to be safe and get a clean slate.
A used AP, even after being unmarried, could have two types of files on it, depending on how much the previous owner deleted before selling:
(1) OTS or "canned" tunes - these are the same ones anyone can download for free from the Cobb website - you get options for 91 and 93 gas and also valet tune, eco tune, a few other options iirc...these tunes will work for any Fiesta as long as it has the proper hardware, which is designated by the "stages" 0,1,2, and 3.
You might also find other "canned" tunes that work on any car as long as the hardware/fuel is right...many tuners sell a canned tune, these are beneficial, just make sure it's canned and not custom...Stratified, Dizzy, many other sell these, they are usually cheap, like under $100.
(2) Custom tunes - these are tunes that were purchased and made specifically for a certain car. They take time to build are more expensive; the owner sends logs to the tuner who uses them to tweak the tune, and then sends it back to the owner, who loads it, tries it out, does more logs, repeat. Usually a custom tune takes 3-7 of these exchanges if it's done over e-mail. Of course it can also be done in person, though e-tuning gets great results these days. But even if you have the same hardware as the car that previously used these tunes, I would be wary of using a customized tune from another car, as there are all sorts of variables that were taken into account when building that map/tune, and it is likely not safe/optimal for your particular car.
If I were buying a used AP (I did actually) I'd just wipe all the tunes and start over downloading the free ones myself, just to be safe and get a clean slate.
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Well i know you know your stuff Jeff, everything here is pretty much what i read last night with hours of searching. The only thing else mentioned is unless you see the used AP in person when buying, you don't know for sure it's not still married. I'd assume most people aren't sadists so probably safe to buy used but still possible.
I think i will buy used also, if it means i can shave a month or two off my saving up time. If i plan this right, i can have a OTS tune in my car before Halloween, and for Christmas i can give myself the gift of a used FMIC, labor included 🤑 , followed by a stage 2 tune.
I think i will buy used also, if it means i can shave a month or two off my saving up time. If i plan this right, i can have a OTS tune in my car before Halloween, and for Christmas i can give myself the gift of a used FMIC, labor included 🤑 , followed by a stage 2 tune.
Great info... I know a lot of folks run these Access Ports in their cars. Does excess heat or cold effect the function of the AP? Or when buying a used AP it is the case of it working or not working because there are no moving pieces. The new one comes with a warranty from Cobb too? And the manual is presumably downloadable from Cobb? Never had one, that’s why I ask.
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As the resident noob im gonna go on a limb and try to answer. From what i've read, you don't even need the AP hooked up once you install the new tune. Once it's in the CPU, it's in. Perhaps it could get so cold/hot that when you hook up the AP it wouldn't work but that could happen to anything no? The car CPU, our phones, ect. I don't think you should worry about this issue. With that said i wouldn't leave it in a hot car in the sun, same with phones ect.
As with all electronics, try not to get them too hot, cold, wet, or in humidity if possible. They shouldn't be too bad, but don't take the risk imo. Buying a used Accessport should be fine, since unless it is physically damaged from a drop or something. One thing you should know is that you need to MAKE SURE IT IS UNMARRIED BEFORE PURCHASING, meaning make sure the previous owner took his car off of it before you buy it, or it will not work.
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