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Sharpening up the FiST before doing stage 1 or 2

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I have been doing this kind of crap to cars for a long time as I have a long history of driving/tracking/modifying older German cars, had several 944 turbo's and a bunch of 95-99 M3's, one of those with an AA turbo kit. And I always like to enjoy the car as stock a little while and make incremental changes before big power adders. This is just my advice and what I will do with the FiST over the coming months and by no means an indictment of people that drop $3k on parts in the first 48 hours of ownership, that's cool as well.

Being that this is first and foremost an "economy" platform you have to know that even though its a Ford Performance division baby it still has roots in cheaper car lines. Keeping that in mind I like to look for low hanging fruit for my first upgrades to compensate for cost saving decisions on larger items. Basically the motor is an air pump, so anything you can do to assist in it getting more of what it wants in and out easier you are rewarded with a more efficient, happy, and longer lasting motor.

First up is a higher flowing exhaust, mandrel bends, nothing crazy, from the cat-back. Must be larger than stock and flow exhaust gasses easier. I went with an Aluminized MBRP strictly based on cost, serves its purpose well and was under $400 if I remember right.

Second was on the induction side, I kept it simple with a Green drop in filter, but I also looked at the induction track to and from the airbox. The induction tube from the airbox being replaced by a higher capacity unit with less internal turbulence should help a bunch. Also possibly one of those snorkels for the airbox, I'll buy the one on the upcoming ST200 and maybe a Mishimoto induction tube for my '16.

Third for me is to examine the spark plug situation, they are pretty cheap plugs and a few of the tuners on here sell high quality replacements, pre-gapped, and one step colder range. This will help the engine deal with the more air in/out and be more resistant to knock/pre-detonation that will cause the ECU to pull timing, lose power.

Fourth I'm going to likely upgrade the factory bypass valve and possibly the wastegate actuator. These are ALWAYS a shortchanged stock part on turbo cars from the factory. The ones that came on my Audi 1.8t were a joke and that was not a cheap car. I don't know what way I will go but a blow-off valve is not exactly "age-appropriate" for me on a daily drive, I'm old and have kids. Back in the day I can remember strapping a duck call to one on a friend's Supra, hilarious.

Finally, lets talk fluids, use the highest octane gas you can get, only buy from newer gas stations, and stick to a name brand. The rule my dad use to tell me was "if they don't sponsor some form of racing than don't buy it". I am lucky to get 93 octane where I live, your car may take a tank full to adjust to the higher octane but you really aren't spending allot more than what you pay for the cheap crap. Use synthetic oil, period. Doesn't matter if its a cracked hydrocarbon blend, yadda, yadda, yadda, just make sure its a name brand synthetic and in the correct viscosity for your car. The only fluids I typically spend a premium on are for the diff and tranny fluids, I buy nice shit, it'll be in there for a long time, and you only need like 2 bottles for most cars.

That's pretty much it. With the exception of the exhaust these are all pretty cheap upgrades that will really set you up right before you throw a Cobb AP on the car. These are tried and true old car guy things, nothing earth shattering, but if you did them all at the same time you'd really feel a difference in your drive without ever flashing the computer. Its really a win/win as you'll see better gas mileage, quicker throttle response from a start and when you punch it while cruising. There really is no downside and your motor will thank you later when you go stage 1 or 2.
 


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Don't take offense to this but your old school thinking doesn't apply too much to the EB engines in terms of bolt-ons. Your correct on things like a BPV,WGA,Gas,plugs and so forth but a tune is where real benefits come from. I'm not 100% sure on the FiST OEM logic as I'm new to this platform but adding parts on vehicles like the FoST and FoRS won't provide any gains with out a tune. The ECU will notice these and you may feel a difference at first but it learn itself down. Also common on EB engines is the lack of measurable performance gains from bolt-ons. The FiST seems to be better then the other two vehicles I mentioned though.

These cars really take some getting to know as to where to put your money. Things like an intercooler will have better value then something like an intake. The Cobb AP will also help you see benefits with logs, or real time data another reason why it isn't a bad idea to tune first.
 


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Crooked Letta's right. I've added pretty much everything you listed, because I'm one of those do everything at once folks. Catback exhaust, induction hose, drop in filter all did nothing for me until the tune. They did add nice noises, which I enjoy. Modern turbo engines just don't care what airflow you free up until the ECU knows what to do with it.

If you want to enjoy a near stock ST for awhile, swap the rear motor mount and call it a day. Step 2, get an AccessPort, but at that point you're opening the floodgates.
 


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Right now I am using Ford Motorcraft the synthetic because they are free oil changes at the dealership LOL. After that I will get mobile 1.
I think you guys might be missing the point of my post, it is not saying that these are big performance upgrades and certainly nothing like doing a tune, these are simply cost effective things to set your car up right before you do a tune and increase boost. I am not claiming big performance gains at Cetera, but these things do improve the overall performance of the car based on the throttle response, boost response, and gas mileage. You still need to use a tune to really wake the car up.


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Back in the day I can remember strapping a duck call to one on a friend's Supra, hilarious.
At my age, THAT is about the only way I would want a vent to atmosphere BOV, IF I could rig it so that every time I shifted, it quacked like a mallard flying by instead of the punk ricer PSSSH PSSSH sound.

The problem is that I would be so [histerical] that I would not be able to drive!
 


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Right now I am using Ford Motorcraft the synthetic because they are free oil changes at the dealership LOL. After that I will get mobile 1.
I think you guys might be missing the point of my post, it is not saying that these are big performance upgrades and certainly nothing like doing a tune, these are simply cost effective things to set your car up right before you do a tune and increase boost. I am not claiming big performance gains at Cetera, but these things do improve the overall performance of the car based on the throttle response, boost response, and gas mileage. You still need to use a tune to really wake the car up.


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What's wrong with the Ford oil?
 


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Ford oil is fine but I'm not going to pay the same price for that as I can pay for Mobile 1 if I was doing my own oil change.


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Subscribed. Can anyone suggest a good set of upgraded (step colder) plugs?


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The ones Adam at Tune+ sells are great, I'm ordering some this week


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Don't forget about braces. It's always a good idea to strengthen your chassis to avoid chassis flex/stress. Especially early on.
 


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Just be aware, they can be a little annoying on a daily driver.
Yes, this is why I am very hesitant to go one step colder on plugs, for a stock turbo daily driver (especially once I have the CP-E IC installed, and maybe a lower temp thermostat) that WILL be used in cold ambient temps, year 'round. :(
 


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Can you elaborate on this? How so?


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I'm not going off personal experience, but there are quite a few examples on this forum. Restarting a warm engine can be challenging. Not exactly ideal for things like running errands. They have their benefits, but I'll avoid the annoying downside until/if I get to the point I need them.
 


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I'm not going off personal experience, but there are quite a few examples on this forum. Restarting a warm engine can be challenging. Not exactly ideal for things like running errands. They have their benefits, but I'll avoid the annoying downside until/if I get to the point I need them.
Gotcha.


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Don't forget about braces. It's always a good idea to strengthen your chassis to avoid chassis flex/stress. Especially early on.
I doubt any additional bracing will change the chassis strength enough to matter. You simply can't generate enough grip with street tires to deform the chassis and the braces that are on the market aren't nearly strong enough to do much. They make your wallet lighter and car heavier. Now, if you are running ultra sticky R compound tires with extensive suspension modifications, you may see an improvement. Tires don't produce enough traction to induce the forces needed to deform one of the strongest cars on the market nor will the stock bushings allow for that much force to go into the chassis. Forgot the braces.
 


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I doubt any additional bracing will change the chassis strength enough to matter. You simply can't generate enough grip with street tires to deform the chassis and the braces that are on the market aren't nearly strong enough to do much. They make your wallet lighter and car heavier. Now, if you are running ultra sticky R compound tires with extensive suspension modifications, you may see an improvement. Tires don't produce enough traction to induce the forces needed to deform one of the strongest cars on the market nor will the stock bushings allow for that much force to go into the chassis. Forgot the braces.
What you're saying makes sense, I came to this same conclusion about reinforcing braces on my other car.
 




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