Pumaspeed X-37 Hybrid Turbo Thread

[MS67]

Fiesta ST180 X-37 320 Billet 7 Blade Hybrid Turbocharger - Ford Fiesta ST 180 1.6 Ecoboost

PumaSpeed x-37 Dyno Results - 99RON (93 Octane)



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Forum Member x-37 Hybrid Results with various Mods / Tuners / and Fuel Type:

Here is a vdyno of my final tune with 93 e10.

93 Octane Pump Gas

From what I've gathered...so far on this forum we have johnnyaf87 running this turbo stateside w/supporting mods making 276whp / 286wtq on 93 octane + meth, SAE corrected on a dynojet, and 298whp / 287wtq on E30 + meth on vDyno....tuned by Adam at Tune+ who I'm sure will chime in.

Dyno graphs from his build thread:

Pump Gas + Meth

E30 + Meth:

Aerofusical is running this turbo in South Africa, making 225kw / 415nm on a corrected dyno, which would convert to 301whp / 306wtq, on pump gas from what I understand. Link to his build thread.

DloST's results (below): dyno'd x37 on E30 - 283whp / 328wtq

8/13/2016

x37 - 283whp / 328wtq at Cobb SoCal today on E30

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UPDATE Here is a vDyno from my final E30 revision from Adam compared to the best E30 stock turbo vDyno log I had. Charge temps for this pull were 82-101*F with some good ol' Florida summer humidity, while the stock turbo run was around 15 degrees cooler. I suspect it'll be noticeably stronger with some better charge temps. But as is, the car feels amazing...I think this is the perfect balance of power for this car.

Pretty awesome looking power bands if you ask me. So, where do you buy one?

I ordered mine from Pumaspeed directly, at www.pumaspeed.co.uk. I ordered it on April 20th and was told it would ship within the next week. The following week, I still had not heard anything...contacted them and they said it would ship that week. Same thing, next week they said it would ship that Monday. ANOTHER week went by and I finally got it today. Pretty crappy communication if you ask me. I don't mind waiting 3-4 weeks for a product to arrive, but don't tell me it's shipping that week and not respond to my e-mails when I ask what's going on. Anyways, I'm getting off topic here...I paid $1263 + 78 shipping, so $1341 shipped to my door. They honored a $340 core charge, which will be refunded when I send my stock turbo back. International shipping will run around $100, so about $1440 all said and done.

Turbo porn...

 

[MS67]

Installed the turbo today, and it went very smoothly. From start to finish, it took right around 5 hours.

I let the car sit overnight. I lost maybe 1/2 quart of coolant when disconnecting the coolant lines, and only lost whatever oil was inside the turbo (not really a measurable amount in terms of overall oil level).

I used SourSkittle's turbo removal DIY as a guide, but I didn't remove the cold side, hot side, then manifold separately. Once everything was unbolted, the entire turbo assembly, still mounted to the manifold, came out the top without issue. I did not have to remove my downpipe from the car, I simply had to unbolt it from the turbo. I didn't even have to loosen it from the cat-back.

I also used Cobb's intake install guide, as it gives you a pretty good idea of which order to remove your headlights, upper/lower cowl, intake pieces etc. From there, it's basically removing the manifold heat shield, unbolting the downpipe, oil and coolant lines, disconnecting some electrical connections and hot side charge pipe, etc. Pretty easy to figure out once you're at this point.

Thanks to johnnyaf87, here are the gaskets you should replace when doing this install. Luckily, Adam has an option to include these with the purchase of the turbo. I bought them separately, even though Pumaspeed told me they were sending me "all the gaskets I would need", which is good because they didn't send me any.

Turbo to manifold gasket
BM5Z-9450-A
Oil feed line gasket
4R8Z-6N652-A
Downpipe to turbo gasket
AM5Z-9450-A

Only hiccup was that I broke one downpipe bolt in my old turbo...there was no saving it (ironically the new turbo had a helicoil in the same hole I broke the bolt off on my stock turbo). It was the last one I took out, and I think the weight of the downpipe pulled on the bolt while I was loosening it...can't hurt to have some extra bolts on hand in advance, as I ultimately had to go to the hardware store to buy an extra. Luckily, no issues removing the manifold bolts. If you have an extra hand, have someone support the downpipe and/or manifold when you loosen the bolts to avoid putting extra stress on the threads.

Link to SourSkittle's turbo removal thread:
http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/2592-How-To-Remove-your-turbocharger

Cobb Intake Install Guide:
https://cobb.app.box.com/v/701100instructions

Heat shield is the biggest pain in the ass. Mine only had two bolts in since it was already bent from my downpipe install, and I was lucky to get them both back in after wrestling with it for 20 minutes.

Anyways, on to some pics.

Starting out.

Headlights removed

Followed by wipers and upper/lower cowl

Nemesis.

Once that POS is off, this is what you'll see.

My broken downpipe bolt and its replacement.

More disassembly in progress...coolant lines are 17mm, oil line is T30 torx.

Old vs new

Switching parts over, including my Tune+ wastegate actuator. I was instructed by Adam to use 1 turn of preload with the new turbo, just an FYI for those running this actuator.

Ready to rock and roll.

New turbo in, assemble in reverse order. Very straight forward.

5 hours later, all done!

Waiting to get the tune ironed out now, so I can't comment on results just yet. Only seeing ~7.5 psi as it sits...I'm chomping at the bit to see what 25psi feels like!

I hope this helps give you guys an idea as to what you'll encounter. Anyone with basic mechanic skills can install this thing. The only tricky parts are the ones I described - trying not to cross thread the downpipe or manifold bolts, and just being careful with various fittings and connections. Take your time, use common sense, and you'll be fine. Oh, and smoke from the engine bay is normal after the install. A little oil/coolant may have dripped on some exhaust parts, and I sprayed the shit out of my manifold and DP bolts with JB80 penetrating oil, so I had a bit of smoke for awhile. Keep an eye on things and make sure no fittings are leaking, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to check the torque on your downpipe/manifold bolts after a few heat cycles, if you feel like disassembling everything and wrestling the damn heat shield again...with that being said, I'm not messing with it lol.

If anyone is wondering, my intake is a CP-E and my downpipe is made by PLM. Also running a CP-E 3" cat back. Once this thing is tuned, I'll get some videos, and I plan to hit the track when it's not hotter than hell here in FL. Thanks for looking.

 

[BoostBumps]

thanks for posting...very impressive indeed!

 

[Tune+]

Thank you for linking to my website. I just brought in a shipment of these turbo's and they are all spoken for. So I am placing another order for 5 tomorrow, and hope to have them in 1-2 weeks.

The benefit of ordering through me versus Pumaspeed is the following:

- Big bore inlet included at no extra charge
- My core charge is $500, which is 100% refundable when you send me your stock turbo.
- You ship your core back to me in the USA rather than shipping all the way to the United Kingdom. This saves you even more money.
- I offer a discount of $65.00 on my tune if you purchase with a turbo. Simply email me info@adamtuned.com for a discounted invoice
- I have a ton of experience with this turbo and have put it through it's paces, so results can be had almost immediately!

Again, here is a link to my site where you can purchase. If you have any questions PLEASE email me.

CLICK HERE TO PURCHASE YOUR PUMASPEED X-37 TURBO!

 

[johnnyaf87]

It's been an awesome experience pushing the X-37 with Adam. I think it was the best call on the hardware after many days of research and I'd like to believe I picked the right tuner to make this turbo known here in the states!

Still not done being Adams X-37 test subject haha
Monday E30 + meth tune will be strapped down to the dynojet, same dyno I strapped down to for the pump gas + meth making 276whp
When I have the time and weather permitting I'll be back at the track and attempt to push into the 12s on street tires

With supporting mods already factored into the budget picking up the X-37 tuned on E30 = only $4.50 per whp @ 280whp
no other turbo setup will offer that affordability

 

[jdubs]

This is awesome! Another thing to add to the todo list.

 

[boyracer]

hm wonder what the big bore inlet entails. do I need something different to hook it up? would the standard one be fine for me. thanks bobn

 

[madfiesta14]

What about a X37, tune, Tune+ wastgate package. That would be super legit. A 12 second run at 111mph + would be a killer setup.

 

[JasonHaven]

Why must my wallet not let me do these things. Sigh.

 

[TheEcoBEAST]

Where did you see his lifetime tune is $250?

 

[MS67]

My bad, it's $300. http://adamtuned.myshopify.com/coll...products/2014-1-6l-fiesta-st-e-tuning-package

Totally worth it though, especially when you consider there's no additional charge for tuning extra fuel types.

 

[alf45]

Nice power curve. Sub.

 

[johnnyaf87]

hm wonder what the big bore inlet entails. do I need something different to hook it up? would the standard one be fine for me. thanks bobn

The turbo inlet you see on the pics is the big bore, your stock or any aftermarket intake will mount up to it. You get this free from adam. I had to pay $187 for that piece.

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[boyracer]

thanks

 

[ericwilliams28]

I just pulled the trigger on ordering one of these as well. Can't wait!

 

[Tune+]

hm wonder what the big bore inlet entails. do I need something different to hook it up? would the standard one be fine for me. thanks bobn

It is a bigger inlet than the factory one, it will connect to your stock intake or any aftermarket intake with a crossover pipe.

What about a X37, tune, Tune+ wastgate package. That would be super legit. A 12 second run at 111mph + would be a killer setup.

Discounts can be had on that setup

Why must my wallet not let me do these things. Sigh.

Second job?

Where did you see his lifetime tune is $250?

Pricing was moved to $300.00 in March.

I just pulled the trigger on ordering one of these as well. Can't wait!

Thank you for your order Eric! I will have more in stock soon!

 

[Rhinopolis]

I have enjoyed working with Adam who has helped to perfect an E30 tune along with his upgraded WGA. I trust Adam, and if this is what he is promoting and believes in then I will gladly give him my business. I have been eyeing a turbo upgrade anyway.....

I am nervous about pulling the turbo for some reason, and is this a fairly straight forward process? I feel like I am mechanically inclined above a basic level, but "messing with the turbo" intimidates me for some reason.

What are the potential pitfalls that I might want to watch out for should I decide to tackle this on my own?

Also and with the Pumaspeed X-37 hybrid turbo setup, will an aft market DP improve peak power? I am running the stock DP right now, and I would purchase an aftermarket DP if it was recommended. If recommended, which specific DP should we go with?

Thank you!

Ryan

 

[MS67]

I have enjoyed working with Adam who has helped to perfect an E30 tune with his upgraded WGA. I trust Adam, and if this is what he is promoting and believes in then I will gladly give him my business. I have been eyeing a turbo upgrade anyway.....

I am nervous about pulling the turbo for some reason, and is this a fairly straight forward process? I feel like I am mechanically inclined above a basic level, but "messing with the turbo" intimidates me for some reason.

What are the potential pitfalls that I might want to watch out for should I decide to tackle this on my own?

Thank you,

Ryan

I've done numerous heads/cam installs, pulled transmissions, rear ends, full suspension overhauls on numerous cars. Never messed with a turbo in my life...lol. I'm replacing mine this Saturday and will update this thread with my install pics and info,

 

[Rhinopolis]

I've done numerous heads/cam installs, pulled transmissions, rear ends, full suspension overhauls on numerous cars. Never messed with a turbo in my life...lol. I'm replacing mine this Saturday and will update this thread with my install pics and info,

Awesome sauce! I have never been nervous about tinkering until I start thinking about removing my turbo...lol. Godspeed on the install, and I will order mine after you give your review and install write up. Thanks again thumbsup

 

[frankiefiesta]

I obviously have a different turbo, but swapping out the stock turbo for a hybrid turbo (physically same turbo) is simple.

Take battery, tray, intake, cowl all off

Take off downpipe, remove any wires/hoses connected to the turbo

Remove manifold and turbo in one piece. Saves some time and head aches. Remove manifold/turbo from the top through where the intake & battery were.

Just a few tips for you guys tackling the install yourself