Just got a 2016 fiesta st and like always, I want it faster :)

[djdilliodon]

Just sprung for a 2016 fiesta ST in kona blue with nav, ebony wheels, and moonroof. Before I get started I'd like to mention my previous turbo car which was 7 years ago. My previous was a 2005 black SRT4. Out of the box that car moved pretty darn good and after doing some mods, it made 300hp and 332tq to the wheels on the stock turbo. Car was sweet in a straight line but doesn't come close to the features of the FiST from the interior, to handling, braking etc. That srt4 got stolen 7 years ago and I took a bit of a break from a performance oriented car. Now that I have this I'm looking to get as much as I can on 93 octane and the stock turbo. If I can realistically get 250-275hp at the wheels and 300tq (or close), I'd be as happy as a pig in you know what. So far the biggest negative I see with this car is the stock intercooler. It gets heat soaked very easy and you can totally feel the difference in power! I know for sure this mod is a must but what else can I do here to get me the power goal I have? Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[MS67]

Realistically, you won't get higher than 210-215whp on the stock turbo. Anything more is due to a very generous dyno.

Look into a modded stock turbo if you're open to that option. There are people making 250+whp on pump gas with the Cyborg and Pumaspeed X37. Johnnyaf87 just made 270+ SAE corrected with the Pumaspeed and meth.

As far as restrictions, you'll get the most gains from upgrading the factory intercooler (search for MTC and Depo Racing if you like bang for your buck) and a good tune. There's so much debate in terms of whether or not an intake or exhaust will gain anything, but the sound alone is worth it IMO. Plus I just ordered a Pumaspeed X37 turbo, so I wanted supporting mods in place.

 

[djdilliodon]

Realistically, you won't get higher than 210-215whp on the stock turbo. Anything more is due to a very generous dyno.

Look into a modded stock turbo if you're open to that option. There are people making 250+whp on pump gas with the Cyborg and Pumaspeed X37. Johnnyaf87 just made 270+ SAE corrected with the Pumaspeed and meth.

As far as restrictions, you'll get the most gains from upgrading the factory intercooler (search for MTC and Depo Racing if you like bang for your buck) and a good tune. There's so much debate in terms of whether or not an intake or exhaust will gain anything, but the sound alone is worth it IMO. Plus I just ordered a Pumaspeed X37 turbo, so I wanted supporting mods in place.

You have confirmed my fears . I figured the stock snail is most likely too small to get in the zone I want. I'm going to look into the modded stock ones and go from there. Now is the Cobb access port the cats meow as far as tuning or is something else worth looking into? Judging from your user ID I take it your a coin collector, if so me too but I prefer them to all be MS68's or better lol.

 

[MS67]

Not a coin collector sorry!

And yes, we pretty much all use the Accessport. I use Tune+ - the lifetime tuning package is hard to beat at $250, especially if you plan on upgrading the turbo down the road. Adam is great to work with and gets awesome results. Other common tuners that people tend to like are Randy at Mountune, Stratified, Russ @ DHM...I might be forgetting one or two, but those are most of the popular ones.

 

[SQFiST]

i too just bought a 2016 and was wondering what first engine upgrade to do. looks like the intercooler may be the way to go if it does give the biggest gains

 

[MS67]

You're not going to gain a ton of peak power from it...but overall performance gains from keeping charge temps down are what I was referring to. Most peak gains will come from a good tune.

 

[djdilliodon]

You're not going to gain a ton of peak power from it...but overall performance gains from keeping charge temps down are what I was referring to. Most peak gains will come from a good tune.

I have an maperformance intake on the way and next week I'll grab the Cobb accessport and maperformance intercooler. Since it's such a small turbo I myself am having a hard time with doing full exhuast as I just can't see a gain worth the $1000 spent on it. Is a bov upgrade worth it? I'm not liking the fact the stock one is plastic but if it's again a useless upgrade then I have no problem leaving well enough alone. The modified stock turbos are a wee bit expensive IMO. I'm sure they are bad ass but I remember on my srt 4 it was done for about $700 which was pretty darn cheap for what you got.

 

[myfiSTurface]

i too just bought a 2016 and was wondering what first engine upgrade to do. looks like the intercooler may be the way to go if it does give the biggest gains

Your not going to gain a while lot from it but mishimoto has an intake on pre order for our 16's I pre ordered mine. Just because its a good price and finally after having my car for over 2 months someone has an intake coming out. But like already said by ms67 with our stock turbos your only going to make so much with all the bolt ons. But if done right and a good protune it'll be a fun little car. If your really looking for an intercooler there are so many choices but I don't know if that would be my very first mod......

 

[SQFiST]

Ah ok i may get that first then. This may be a stupid wuestion, but does an aftermarket intake void warrantee?

 

[myfiSTurface]

Ah ok i may get that first then. This may be a stupid wuestion, but does an aftermarket intake void warrantee?

in reality any aftermarket stuff does, but it only voids something that has directly failed due to an aftermarket component. So a bad wheel bearing cant be declined because of an intake. in reality just a Maf and if you were to blow your engine or turbo they can say all they want but that's a hard one to say an intake caused the failure unless it came apart and got sucked up. I work for Toyota and I've had lifted trucks come in and we usually take care of our customers (aside from factory suspension) but I cant speak for all dealers because there are a lot of A.holes in the industry.

 

[SQFiST]

So if i blow my engine i swap back to factory before taking it into the dealer

 

[SQFiST]

Ok i ordered the intake. Ill hold off on the intercooler and tune till i save up some $. Thanks for the advice

 

[MS67]

Ah ok i may get that first then. This may be a stupid wuestion, but does an aftermarket intake void warrantee?

This really, really depends on your dealership. I've seen people's warranty claims get denied over the dumbest shit, yet my local Ford dealership replaced the whining tranny in my full bolt-on and tuned 11 second 5.0 Mustang...and even installed an aftermarket clutch and aluminum driveshaft for me while the tranny was out.

 

[myfiSTurface]

This really, really depends on your dealership. I've seen people's warranty claims get denied over the dumbest shit, yet my local Ford dealership replaced the whining tranny in my full bolt-on and tuned 11 second 5.0 Mustang...and even installed an aftermarket clutch and aluminum driveshaft for me while the tranny was out.

I Agree my buddy has a twin turbo 5.0 that got a rear diff warrantied because the dealer thought the car was cool and its "built to be driven". I personally don't bust peoples balls but I have declined stuff because the customers have been a douche haha. at the end of the day if the factory doesn't know the car has it then no harm no foul. I had a vw back when with APR chip that a dealer did when I bought it but another dealer declined a warranty repair. I said check the national history it was done by the VW dealer I bought it from. Still wouldn't cover it, another dealer did and said the other dealer always does that. So really its just a game

 

[DSpecFiST]

Safe to say that "most" of the stuff for the 2014 & 2015 fits the 2016 short of perhaps tuning?

 

[frankiefiesta]

Ok i ordered the intake. Ill hold off on the intercooler and tune till i save up some $. Thanks for the advice

What intake did you order? The 2016 intake is different than 2014/2015.

 

[djdilliodon]

I got the map intake installed on my 16 and it came with the extra items to make it all work. No check engine lights and perfect fit! Intake sounds awesome! Butt dyno doesn't feel much of a difference maybe a tad on the top end. Between this coming Monday-Wednesday I'll pickup the intercooler and accessport . I'm gonna run with the tuner for a few days just to monitor intake temps using the stock unit so I can compare with the aftermarket intercooler.

 

[Brickell FIST]

Did the same thing as you. Installed a MAP intake and it sounds awesome. I put in a MAP intercooler and AP with Adam+. Very impressed. Think I might be done here.

With ford dealerships I don't think they void unrelated parts. I blew out the rear end in my 2013 GT500 and they fixed it no questions asked. Even replaced the carbon fiber drive shaft due to a vibration. That car was all bolt ons made 700/700.

The ST isn't a fast car. However, the power and handling are usable all the time. I want it faster like the rest of you but have a realistic expectations on the platform. I like being able to get all the performance out of it all the time. You can't do that with a GT500. This car is fantastic for what it is. I couldn't be happier. Hell, in certain environments this is faster than the Shelby.

 

[Wimp Lo]

The factory intake is a true cold air intake, it is pretty good and will make more noise if you get a K&N or other drop in panel filter.

Aftermarket intakes don't do much except add sound unless you can pressurize it with ram air or cowl induction. The 2j cowl induction intake is the only one I would buy except it is notoriously loud due to intake sound coming through the cowl vents for the HVAC system.

For a USDM car, the first step should always be a Cobb Accessport. Every mod needs tuning so you always need that.

If a tune isn't enough for you, look for the biggest, best intercooler you can find. The stock turbo has a tiny compressor that spins incredibly fast. It is not efficient which heats the intake charge so bigger is better for the intercooler.

If that is still not enough, you have two options, hybrid turbo or "big turbo". The choice you make depends on budget and what you want your power curve to look like and it is complicated by the limits of our DI fuel system. If you go that way, research a lot.

 

[SQFiST]

I pre ordered the mishimoto intake. Couldnt pass up the price plus i want better sound. Looks like it helped sightly with performance as well. Maybe if the velossa snorkel fits it ill get that also