Bad Seller/Poor Communication

[D1JL]

Here's the thing... If he needed money this badly, would he have not spent it already?

I am sure because of all the complaints to PayPal, his account was frozen.
He would not have been able to withdraw funds, even if he had started, PayPal would have stopped it.
As I recall one message said he could not transfer money, however, you can always make a refund if there in money in your account.



Dave

 

[Lopshaw]

This is what popped into my head while reading this thread...
Only a Lad

 

[FocusMike]

I'm still waiting for him to make a post to clear up his side of the story lol.

 

[marc89gti]

I'm thinking that won't happen, probably worries he get flamed too badly with comments etc.

I guess another question can he be banned from this forum for his actions of scamming people through the use of the for sale section?

 

[jaysinstrife]

I'm waiting for my "extra money" lol. My refund is pending, and it also seems the ruling was in my favor by PayPal so no matter what I was getting my money back.

 

[jaysinstrife]

In reality I don't expect anything extra. I just find it funny that he has said that to everyone.

 

[marc89gti]

In reality I don't expect anything extra. I just find it funny that he has said that to everyone.

Because he's trying to butter you up so that you don't file a complaint with the police.

 

[jaysinstrife]

Police? lol. I reported him to the FBI cyber crime division.

 

[marc89gti]

Police? lol. I reported him to the FBI cyber crime division.

Awesome even better, I hope he gets everything he deserves in the form a punishment from the law

 

[dyn085]

Because he's trying to butter you up so that you don't file a complaint with the police.

No, because just like all of the rest of the discussions, he's just using cut/paste and relying to all.

Fwiw, I don't think he should pay any 'extra', just make people whole by refunding what was sent. The 'extra' would be whatever the judicial system should decide, at some point in the future. I just hope everyone is taking this as seriously as they post, hopefully it can send a clear message to dishonest people in the future.

 

[eleven]

Don't ban him yet! Still waiting on my refund...

 

[ST_JOE]

Not to sure but couldn't the "extra money" be viewed as a settlement in court? If it were me I would only accept a refund for what I paid nothing more, nothing less. I wouldn't want him having any leverage.

 

[FocusMike]

Not to sure but couldn't the "extra money" be viewed as a settlement in court? If it were me I would only accept a refund for what I paid nothing more, nothing less. I wouldn't want him having any leverage.

It does not in the eyes of the law. The only thing the "extra money" can do is to hopefully persuade the victim from reporting the crime and suing him in civil court. He has already broken the law through fraud and willful misrepresentation, collecting money for something he's already sold and then sending a fake package across state lines. Furthermore there's no contract between victim and him that states they will accept the extra money in exchange for not reporting the crime or filing a civil suit.

 

[gongos]

I told him I wanted a full refund--no extra money.

 

[Hijinx]

This "extra money" bit seems a little illegal. Where did he get said money? From his other scams.

 

[MPA]

I am sure because of all the complaints to PayPal, his account was frozen.
He would not have been able to withdraw funds, even if he had started, PayPal would have stopped it.
As I recall one message said he could not transfer money, however, you can always make a refund if there in money in your account.

I'd guess he moved the money out, but couldn't add funds because all of the complaints against him put his acct at a negative balance, and any money added/received goes towards that negative balance.

I sold a GoPro on Ebay a few years ago, and they filed a case because I forgot to include the charger. Since I'd already transferred the money out, my acct balance was something like -$150, and I couldn't use the acct until the case was resolved.

 

[Oyster]

Don't let this guy off the hook, he needs to be taught a lesson.

Ditto. Fuck this guy!

 

[RAAMaudio]

I have not spoken to my contact about looking into this as he works on far bigger cases and you guys have covered all the bases as it is so not much I would expect he could advise you on this.

If you do get money back ensure you have absolutely zero ties to where it came from, even mentioning it might come from some other scam may be a bad idea

 

[Homerplata]

Ditto. Fuck this guy!

+1

Also, what's in the box?

 

[MKVIIST]

Please let me know if this guy still owes you money. I have already locked down his account but before I make the appropriate actions I want to make sure everyone gets their money back.