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2J intercooler review

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Okay, I don't really want to bump this up but I just helped to install this IC on a 2016 tonight.

Or, well, I should say tried to help...

It does not fit. No chance. No amount of loosening the crash bar, etc would have fixed it. It just simply did not fit.
This is exactly how I felt and what I experience and when I asked Joe for a full refund as it was not my fault that the design is too big, he told me too bad so sad i had to pay he 20% restocking fee! Dealing with 2J was so shitty as well. They kept telling me to do this or try that, every time I called , just so they wouldn't have to take it back.

With shipping costs and my 20% restocking fee, I lost 180$ USD on this bad cooler. BUYER BEWARE

phew, what a read. From what I can gather, the QC issues at this price point extends beyond welds and finish but also the overall dimensions of the unit. How else is it that some owners can just drop it in as advertised, some trim to fit and for others it just doesn't fit at all. 2J obviously needs to pull this IC off of the market and have a long hard look at their workflow and QC. It also doesn't help at all that Joe has either been in a defensive stance or MIA.....and the phone call where he had an out of body experience...speaks volumes.

I'm always suspect of something that claims to be competitive at half the cost. I was ok with sloppy welds but not with missing welds. Ok with unfinished aluminum but not when unfinished means just plain dirty. Especially when others make it out of their shop finished to a decent shine. The QC is obviously in serious neglect over at 2J for their to be such variance in even the minor aspects of construction. I only refer to finish and welds as minor to frame the major QC issue..overall dimensions also seem to be in question here, imo.

I'm in the market for an IC. After this thread, 2J is waaay of the list. I'm very interested to see how the recent Depo IC unfolds...If that turns out to be another "get what you pay for" POS then i think i may just not upgrade my IC, ever. I just can't justify the cost of Cobb or DHM. Great units for sure, but their costs don't line up with my bang-for-buck budget for this car.
I have the Depo DP and its on par in terms of quality with the ones on the market right now. IMO no one can have quality issues like 2J did because that's just plain neglect or a money grab. The quality of my IC was so bad that it was mind blowing to me, how someone could sell that. I would stay away from anything 2J
 


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Check out the MAP intercooler.
I've settled on their cat back. Hadn't even thought to see if they had an IC. Looks like a quality piece. Pretty much identical to Cobb's. Thanks for the heads up. This may be where i end up if Depo doesn't work out for some reason.

The Depo IC is identical to Cobb but for half the price . Depo IC is a huge hit in the FosT community so I think it will be good IC . No one will know till some received their IC and do logs
Yea i went over to the FoST forum and they all seem very pleased with it. I see you ordered yours! We expect a thread just like this one when you get it ;)

Mishimoto is looking really promising.
They are a great outfit. I always follow their R&D threads. But there IC will be priced right up there with Cobb :(

This is exactly how I felt and what I experience and when I asked Joe for a full refund as it was not my fault that the design is too big, he told me too bad so sad i had to pay he 20% restocking fee! Dealing with 2J was so shitty as well. They kept telling me to do this or try that, every time I called , just so they wouldn't have to take it back.

With shipping costs and my 20% restocking fee, I lost 180$ USD on this bad cooler. BUYER BEWARE



I have the Depo DP and its on par in terms of quality with the ones on the market right now. IMO no one can have quality issues like 2J did because that's just plain neglect or a money grab. The quality of my IC was so bad that it was mind blowing to me, how someone could sell that. I would stay away from anything 2J
oh at this point i wouldn't even buy his short shift kit. Might end up with a raw unfinished block of aluminum and having to pay a restocking fee[emoji14]
 


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Okay, I don't really want to bump this up but I just helped to install this IC on a 2016 tonight.

Or, well, I should say tried to help...

It does not fit. No chance. No amount of loosening the crash bar, etc would have fixed it. It just simply did not fit.

What came to be of this T?
 


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Whatcha mean?

It didn't fit. It's sitting in a box in the owner's garage.
He's not asking for a refund? I would ask for a refund and then tell him to buy the Depo for Xtra 10$ Becuase he will lose 80$ on restocking fee Becuase Joes a shady guy
 


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Thought a while back, you said you helped another friend with a 2016 FiST, and the IC fit...
What's up with this IC??
I didn't help him install. 2 of my friends (actually more than 2, I think 3) bought the IC. One of my friends installed it on his own (I was busy and couldn't make it) and says it fit fine with no modification. I saw the IC on his car so I was inclined to believe him.

The second friend, I PERSONALLY removed his bumper, pulled his old IC, and attempted to install. It would not fit. Zero chance. No amount of "loosening the crash bar" would have fixed it. Nothing short of cutting the stock crash bar would have allowed it to fit, and even with that... the barbs that the IC pipes go on to are REALLY loose which I've never seen on an IC before. I don't know how well they would have sealed, and I would be very afraid of blowing charge pipes off.

The third friend hasn't attempted to install his yet, but I will report back when he does.
 


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I wanted to update on here about my experience with 2JR and Racing Depot.
First of all, I was looking for an IC to complete my build to stage 3, and I saw the 2JR IC had the best price and appeared to offer a lot. Big IC, built from R&D company known for racing background. These guys supposely know what they're doing. So I went and bought it and waited about a week for it. When it finally arrived, I was excited like a kid, expecting a box of gold upon opening it... only instead, to find a box of coal. This IC was terrible. Welding was poorly done, it was scuff galore! It was basically an unfinished product. But I figured, ok, so it wasn't polished. So what if it visually looks inferior to pretty much every other IC in the market. At least once it's installed behind the grill, no one will really see it anyway.

Then to my shock, it doesn't even fit... It won't fit, it doesn't fit, it can't fit. No, this isn't from my inability. As others have chimed in, it's impossible. I called 2JR and got the run around. No one was admitting fault, and whomever answered the call said he wasn't able to authorize a refund. Called them some more and got more run around. Finally I was able to get in contact with someone that was willing to authorize a refund, but it will cost me (20%) $80 USD restocking fee. Restocking fee for what?! For their own mistake for selling me a product that had defects? This isn't even like a packaged product with a broken seal. It's not like there's a product box that got ripped apart or something. These guys are probably just gonna turn around and resell it for full value since it's unused. On top, I had to fork out $48 USD to ship it back. Once again, more money out of my pocket due to 2JR's incompetence. What a joke! By the end of all this, I lost $230 in buying a 22"x8.25"x2.25" piece of junk that's not even good for paper weight (cause it's too big).

Here comes Racing Depo. I bought their DP because it was cheap. I wasn't expecting much this time, but boy, was I wrong! Their product look top notch. So I realized they were also developing an IC for the FiST. I waited for it to be released and orded it immediately. Their price/quality is totally worth it. Shipping was fast too! (3 days). All I can say is WOW! Not only because 2JR was cheap shi#! in comparison, but I was very impressed with the quality of Depo Racing's IC. The weld lines are more clean, the surface shines under minimal light. It was also packaged to handle a 10 scale Richter earthquake.

Nevermind the actual IC... Even the styrofoam is silver and shiny!! Seriously, this styrofoam looked better than 2JR's IC.


Came with hardware, and includes instructions... or a manual telling you where to find a YouTube instruction, lol


I am beyond impressed with this brand and their quality. It goes to show you cheap price doesn't always mean cheap quality.
*HIGHLY recommend this cooler*





Fully installed, piece of cake, like how it should have been. No BS fitment issues at all.
 


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I almost pulled the trigger on that 2J till I saw you're tribulations. Well at least you still aren't too out of pocket with that Depo deal.
 


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I almost pulled the trigger on that 2J till I saw you're tribulations. Well at least you still aren't too out of pocket with that Depo deal.
Still got shafted none the less
Also wanted to give other an insight of how this company operates, so others don't lose out on money for no reason.
 


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Wish I'd seen this thread earlier. Bought an intercooler from 2J (because I'm already pulling the front end off to change out a broken radiator) and it simply WILL NOT FIT. I'm going to try again in the morning as I might be able to trim the plastics enough to shift it back, but (at a rough guess) its missing about 1/4" or more of clearance and rubs against the crash bar. I emailed 2J and they responded within about 10 minutes and will be sending out a shipping label monday. If I can get it to fit without cutting the crashbar I'll live with it. But I don't see how its supposed to fit. Any pictures on the clearance when installed on a 2016 ST?
 


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Wish I'd seen this thread earlier. Bought an intercooler from 2J (because I'm already pulling the front end off to change out a broken radiator) and it simply WILL NOT FIT. I'm going to try again in the morning as I might be able to trim the plastics enough to shift it back, but (at a rough guess) its missing about 1/4" or more of clearance and rubs against the crash bar. I emailed 2J and they responded within about 10 minutes and will be sending out a shipping label monday. If I can get it to fit without cutting the crashbar I'll live with it. But I don't see how its supposed to fit. Any pictures on the clearance when installed on a 2016 ST?

lol, always brings back bad memories when someone posts in here and I get the updates since I'm still subscribed.

I have no idea how this guy claimed this is track tested and it was working wonders during the R&D. It's a good thing I don't take my car out on a track or I would have tossed this junk.
I've looked at datalogs and is clearly inferior to COBB/depo's IC. Anyone serious in trying to get the most power out of their car for racing or dyno stats needs to avoid this IC.

The fitment is a joke. It CAN fit.... but you have to be extremely precise in the placement, and it's not easy to find the precise placement. You just gotta keep wiggling the IC around until you can align up the holes for the bolts. Then you gotta jam the bolt in and hope the threads catch. Apply a lot of pressure to force it to stay aligned. The IC will be mounted at about a 5 degree angle, cause the IC won't fit perpendicular to the ground.

Don't cut the crashbar.... It's not necessary and it's not worth sacrificing your safety should you ever get into an accident. If you're getting a shipping label for a full refund, I would just take it. Or if you're impatient and just want a cheap aftermarket IC, try to make it work without cutting anything.
 


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Wish I'd seen this thread earlier. Bought an intercooler from 2J (because I'm already pulling the front end off to change out a broken radiator) and it simply WILL NOT FIT. I'm going to try again in the morning as I might be able to trim the plastics enough to shift it back, but (at a rough guess) its missing about 1/4" or more of clearance and rubs against the crash bar. I emailed 2J and they responded within about 10 minutes and will be sending out a shipping label monday. If I can get it to fit without cutting the crashbar I'll live with it. But I don't see how its supposed to fit. Any pictures on the clearance when installed on a 2016 ST?


There is no clearance... the IC is going to be tight up against the crashbar. You're basically grinding metal at this point.


It is possible... Just kind of looks like turd and the IC goes in slanted. (Note the crashbar is perpendicular to the ground) Also, I've noticed my hose on the cold side keeps slipping half an inch over time. During the summer when I'm working on my car, I would remove the bumper every few weeks and I would notice it keep slipping even when I continually tighten it back each time.


I got fed up and eventually bought another hose clamp at Home Depot and it's been good since.
 


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