2J intercooler review

[madfiesta14]

Yeah that is my plan, trim crash bar and sand and paint black. I, know I know trimming crash bar makes it weaker from a crash standpoint, But I am not removing it and I know it meets government crash standadrds. No hate on DHM but I doubt they have NHTSA crash rating for their bar. And yea it is a work of art. But still maybe no stronger then me just using the OEM and trimming.

So where is the ignorance above?
And the information is always out there for any inquiry, my above statement was not an inquiry besides the NHTSA rating that is valid. It is a plan for my ride nobody elses.

 

[madfiesta14]

It is ignorance when the information is available. I'd be more than happy to review your comments if you'd like.

Also, I have no problem with being called a DHM fanboy. I take pride in the passion.

P.S. Why do people get SOOOOO salty when you call them on ignorance? If I say something ignorant, I'd WANT to be called out. How else can you learn and grow?

People become "salty" when you dont add value to a thread, just "call out" what you see as ignorance, because yes you have gone through many parts and have tons of knowledge and experience. I have only had this platform for 3 months.

 

[twolf]

Cut up your crash bar if you want. Keep in mind, a new one from Ford is $300, and knowingly selling a vehicle where safety measures have been removed is illegal AFAIK.

 

[madfiesta14]

Oh well I am done with this 2J intercooler review thread. I wont darken this topic again. I will proceed as I planned

 

[madfiesta14]

Cut up your crash bar if you want. Keep in mind, a new one from Ford is $300, and knowingly selling a vehicle where safety measures have been removed is illegal AFAIK.

Ehhh in 2 or 3 years I can pull one off a Fiesta from a junkyard, there are 4 in OKC already so easy fix

 

[twolf]

Well this goes back to the other thread where a few of us were trying to figure out how did the upper portion of the 2JR IC receive airflow when it was blocked by the bumper and crash beam. It was never answered. Rather though, we got data that this IC was much better than oem as it was thoroughly tested on a track. So simply put, it probably doesn't get effective airflow. But due to the sheer size of the IC, I guess it doesn't matter in a sense that you're still getting much better cooling than oem IC.


For the DHM race IC, do they include an aftermarket grill that's opened up at the lower portion of it? The oem grill is covered, rendering the top portion of it useless even with the modified crash bar.

Nope. Many people modify the stock grille because with no unsightly stock crashbar, you get more airflow over the radiator and get to show off the bar/IC, as well as potentially having more air flow over the IC.

 

[arlisscm]

Nope. Many people modify the stock grille because with no unsightly stock crashbar, you get more airflow over the radiator and get to show off the bar/IC, as well as potentially having more air flow over the IC.

Picked up some flap discs for just that reason today. I can smell burning plastic already. Haha

 

[madfiesta14]

Picked up some flap discs for just that reason today. I can smell burning plastic already. Haha

Flap discs?

 

[twolf]

Flap discs?

 

[arlisscm]

He beat me to it. Stupid phone. Haha. I went with 80 grit, not crazy aggressive or too fine. But, I will see how it goes.

 

[twolf]

These guys http://m.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-ha...c-67639.html?utm_referrer=direct/not provided I got 80 grit though.

please do let us know how that works. When are you going to do it?

 

[arlisscm]

please do let us know how that works. When are you going to do it?

If everything comes in probably the first week in April. After scouring other forums, even some for the fost I figured I'd give these a shot. I don't have the patience for 4+ hours of drilling and using a dremel, plus I don't have a dremel. Haha. It seems pretty straight forward, I may have to get creative to get the corners though.

 

[WeTheNorth]

For the record, I've been through many different configurations of vendor parts (and tunes) as the community has grown. Because of this experience, and my general worldview I can't recall once where I touted anyone as being the end-all, be-all...which is typically what fanboying is. If 2JRs cooler works, that's awesome... Everything depends on your goals.

The 2j cooler is complete bs

 

[AzNightmare]

Nope. Many people modify the stock grille because with no unsightly stock crashbar, you get more airflow over the radiator and get to show off the bar/IC, as well as potentially having more air flow over the IC.

Is this with the DHM IC or the 2JR IC?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but judging from the pics, the 2JR IC doesn't seem to extend above the crash beam. So how does drilling the holes through in the lower portion of the grill help? I can understand if it's for allowing more airflow to the radiator though.

 

[AzNightmare]

Another thought as well 2J should stop claiming that their IC has 17 rows... It does not.

Good point.

On 2JR's website:
http://www.2j-racing.com/2jr-full-race-intercooler.html

Full Race FMIC for the Fiesta ST. The largest FMIC available for the ST that requires no cutting. Direct drop in with 17 rows and less than 1psi pressure drop across the tank, its built for the street and track. We've seen over 22% reduction in intake charge temps and huge efficiency gains over stock. You're able to run more boost, longer with higher performance gains. Keep your stock crash bar

What 2JR advertises:

What we're really getting:

Makes me wonder if their specs listed on their site are based on the preliminary design.

 

[twolf]

Is this with the DHM IC or the 2JR IC?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but judging from the pics, the 2JR IC doesn't seem to extend above the crash beam. So how does drilling the holes through in the lower portion of the grill help? I can understand if it's for allowing more airflow to the radiator though.

Ding ding ding you hit the nail on the head. The black plastic backing on the hexagon grille is blocking the crash bar. Because it's ugly, I assume. Ford only partially painted it. This is why I'm skeptical that modifying the stock crash bar will give any gains. I definitely would not modify my upper grille using the stock crash bar unless I also painted it.

 

[madfiesta14]

That is what I was trying to convey, one could trim lower part of crash bar, and upper part of the lower grill opening. The blacked out hexagon on upper grill doesnt need to be touched

 

[frankiefiesta]

I also noticed the design difference.

When I called to ask about he delay, Joe told me that they designed the intercooler on a '14 fiesta and when they test fitted on a '15 it did not fit right. For what reason I'm not sure, but he said they had to redesign the intercooler to make sure it would fit correctly.

Edit: I will add the "what 2J advertises on their website" picture to the first post

 

[WeTheNorth]

I also noticed the design difference.

When I called to ask about he delay, Joe told me that they designed the intercooler on a '14 fiesta and when they test fitted on a '15 it did not fit right. For what reason I'm not sure, but he said they had to redesign the intercooler to make sure it would fit correctly.



Edit: I will add the "what 2J advertises on their website" picture to the first post

Yeah that's a good idea, [MENTION=4104]AzNightmare[/MENTION] good post with pics and such bud. It's good to let people know how 2J does business, my IC almost looks like it was unfinished , yet joe will come and give us his life credentials about where and how etc

 

[DHM1]

I also noticed the design difference.

When I called to ask about he delay, Joe told me that they designed the intercooler on a '14 fiesta and when they test fitted on a '15 it did not fit right. For what reason I'm not sure, but he said they had to redesign the intercooler to make sure it would fit correctly.

Edit: I will add the "what 2J advertises on their website" picture to the first post

That's odd for what it is worth I have multiple 2014-2015 in the shop weekly for installs and I have never seen one difference at all between them that would affect the intercooler.

Russ