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The X37 Panda

haste

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[MENTION=1668]haste[/MENTION]

Obviously you know from experience that this is an expensive piece coming from overseas, and did you need to communicate anything to Pumaspeed when you ordered yours about "stock location" or "v-band to suit GTX"?

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http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-...a-ST180-GT28-Tubular-Manifold_16616.jsp&pic=2
The v-band setup wasn't available when I ordered mine. Unfortunately, I cannot answer that question for you. It may be best to give them a call.
 


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Correct made the power with those parts as well as downpipe, actuator and wmi that I didn't see listed there.

This is the manifold http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Fiesta-ST180-Quickspool-Tubular-Manifold_16197.jsp&pic=1

They don't list it as option with turbo as its 2 separate parts but is actually developed for the X range hybrid turbos. Small bore quicker spool, large bore most power


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Why wouldn't it? It's made to work with the stock turbo. Since the x37 is a stock turbo, I don't think there would be any issues
When you go to puma speed website, they have turbos and then the tube manifold is an option and when you read the magazine article on their website they use the tube manifold on the x-27. They make no mention that it adds to the performance but also on the page where you order the x-37 the tube manifold is not an option. It has been said that on the smaller turbos the tube manifold makes little to no difference. The x-37 is based on stock size right? But produces more airflow for more output. So I would guess the tube manifold might increase spool up time on the x-37. Puma may have just stuck it on the car for the magazine just to sell product whether it made a difference or not.

There are others here who have made much more power and may be able to answer the question better but the bigger turbos gives you a leap in performance and then there are lots of other add-ons but the gain is very minimal 1-3-5 hp difference arrows the entire band. Rhinopolis added the turbo, but also added the throttle and intake spacers, 3" exhaust and I think a manifold and made 300whp and 300+ ft tq. On 91 Octane. That is really impressive for this size turbo casing based on every option available.
 


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Correct made the power with those parts as well as downpipe, actuator and wmi that I didn't see listed there.

This is the manifold http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Fiesta-ST180-Quickspool-Tubular-Manifold_16197.jsp&pic=1


They don't list it as option with turbo as its 2 separate parts but is actually developed for the X range hybrid turbos. Small bore quicker spool, large bore most power


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Very impressive setup.
 


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Rhinopolis it would be the stock location Manifold. And just my advice but I don't think the "small bore" for spool up version would be needed in the x37. Get the large bore for more top end. The spool on the x37 will be anything but laggy.

I say this because I have the Vband GTX version manifold that I am trying to sell, it is the "small bore" and it's runners are 1" pipe. It's very restrictive for high velocity gasses. The large bore I believe is 1.25" which would flow much better. If this were a much larger turbo I'd say to go the other way but it still being small and people still seeing 20 psi and more by 3000rpms there is no reason to have the "small bore" version. It would only hurt you in top end, if anything.
 


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When you go to puma speed website, they have turbos and then the tube manifold is an option and when you read the magazine article on their website they use the tube manifold on the x-27. They make no mention that it adds to the performance but also on the page where you order the x-37 the tube manifold is not an option. It has been said that on the smaller turbos the tube manifold makes little to no difference. The x-37 is based on stock size right? But produces more airflow for more output. So I would guess the tube manifold might increase spool up time on the x-37. Puma may have just stuck it on the car for the magazine just to sell product whether it made a difference or not.

There are others here who have made much more power and may be able to answer the question better but the bigger turbos gives you a leap in performance and then there are lots of other add-ons but the gain is very minimal 1-3-5 hp difference arrows the entire band. Rhinopolis added the turbo, but also added the throttle and intake spacers, 3" exhaust and I think a manifold and made 300whp and 300+ ft tq. On 91 Octane. That is really impressive for this size turbo casing based on every option available.
I also have the pumaspeed replica manifold, you know, the one they sell on eBay. Got some welds reinforced and added a V band flange to mount an external wastegate. It's holding up well. I do not think it made a difference in spool or power compared to others with the cyborg turbo. Not sure how it would work with the pumaspeed turbo. My guess, being the turbo is so small, it won't make much of a difference. My .02, everyone should save their money and enjoy the gains to be had from the turbo itself!
 


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I also have the pumaspeed replica manifold, you know, the one they sell on eBay. Got some welds reinforced and added a V band flange to mount an external wastegate. It's holding up well. I do not think it made a difference in spool or power compared to others with the cyborg turbo. Not sure how it would work with the pumaspeed turbo. My guess, being the turbo is so small, it won't make much of a difference. My .02, everyone should save their money and enjoy the gains to be had from the turbo itself!
Agreed! :)
 


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I also have the pumaspeed replica manifold, you know, the one they sell on eBay. Got some welds reinforced and added a V band flange to mount an external wastegate. It's holding up well. I do not think it made a difference in spool or power compared to others with the cyborg turbo. Not sure how it would work with the pumaspeed turbo. My guess, being the turbo is so small, it won't make much of a difference. My .02, everyone should save their money and enjoy the gains to be had from the turbo itself!
I will take your advice, thank you
 


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I guess there's no reason for me to upgrade the manifold on the X37, and I'll enjoy it as it comes and can always upgrade down the road if new info develops.
 


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When you go to puma speed website, they have turbos and then the tube manifold is an option and when you read the magazine article on their website they use the tube manifold on the x-27. They make no mention that it adds to the performance but also on the page where you order the x-37 the tube manifold is not an option. It has been said that on the smaller turbos the tube manifold makes little to no difference. The x-37 is based on stock size right? But produces more airflow for more output. So I would guess the tube manifold might increase spool up time on the x-37. Puma may have just stuck it on the car for the magazine just to sell product whether it made a difference or not.

There are others here who have made much more power and may be able to answer the question better but the bigger turbos gives you a leap in performance and then there are lots of other add-ons but the gain is very minimal 1-3-5 hp difference arrows the entire band. Rhinopolis added the turbo, but also added the throttle and intake spacers, 3" exhaust and I think a manifold and made 300whp and 300+ ft tq. On 91 Octane. That is really impressive for this size turbo casing based on every option available.
Here ya go
No, and where did you get that from? According to Virtual Dyno, I made 281 peak whp and 277 lbs peak wtrq on E30.
 


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I'm not sure where got that sorry about that. Did you do a virtual run on 93?
No biggie, and my mods are listed in my signature. I have nothing beyond what is listed, and currently I don't plan to to add anything beyond what is listed.

I have been utilizing E30 since early May and I don't intend to go back to straight 93.
 


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