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Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Intercooler R&D!

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[MENTION=1848]mishimoto[/MENTION] As you are still testing prototypes, is there any chance of offering the final product in a natural silver finish similar to the cobb/airtec unit? Shiny jewelry for the front of that lower grille sure would look nice!
 


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I'm liking how much you guys are putting into this intercooler.

I was looking into the DHM intercooler as it's been more or less proven as one of, if not the best one on the market. However, with how much you guys are putting into this, I might see myself going with your Tube and fin style in that nice gold coat.
I hope your next batch gives positive results.
Thank you SirSlaughter. We should have an additional update on this project very soon.

[MENTION=1848]mishimoto[/MENTION] As you are still testing prototypes, is there any chance of offering the final product in a natural silver finish similar to the cobb/airtec unit? Shiny jewelry for the front of that lower grille sure would look nice!
Additional finish options are still up for discussion. Would you be interested in a raw finish or polished tanks?

-John
 


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Thank you SirSlaughter. We should have an additional update on this project very soon.

Additional finish options are still up for discussion. Would you be interested in a raw finish or polished tanks?

-John
I would like to see a matte black finish myself with the orange "M" symbol, personally. I know you've done black intercoolers with white lettering before, but the orange would be cool.
 


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That's good to hear. I'm waiting for this specific intercooler before I finally make the jump to stage 3.
Thanks!

Polished tanks would be great!
Noted!

I would like to see a matte black finish myself with the orange "M" symbol, personally. I know you've done black intercoolers with white lettering before, but the orange would be cool.
Thanks for the input. I can confirm we will have a cooler with a black finish, this is one of our common options. In the past we've used a white "M" on the center of the core, but our more recent cooler designs are void of any core branding. We prefer more subtle branding on end tanks, usually in the form of a cast "M". I will pass on this requested color scheme to our team.

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-John
 


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Quick update!

Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Fiesta ST Intercooler R&D, Part 5: Second Prototype Fabrication

Our quest for the perfect intercooler core continues! So far we’ve perfected the fitment and size of our intercooler core. Our final task is to adjust internal fin composition to create a perfect blend of pressure retention and temperature benefits.

Prototype Ford Fiesta ST Intercooler Fabrication

Timing is a bit of a concern for us at this time. This project has been lengthy, but it will be worth the effort and time when we know our best efforts have been captured in our final product.

Our final version of this intercooler will likely feature a tube-and-fin core. The benefits of weight and airflow are too important to ignore, not to mention the temperature drops we are seeing with a strategically designed internal core.

For our team, the creation of a bar-and-plate cooler is a much quicker process. We’ve found that pressure drop between the two core types is similar if fin style, density, or both are the same. So for this test, we are using two bar-and-plate cores to determine our final fin design that will produce improved internal airflow.

Check out our two cores!


Mishimoto prototype Ford Fiesta ST intercooler cores

Both cores are less dense than the previously tested units, so they should produce a lower pressure drop. They also utilize different fin styles. Check out the internal structures below.


Mishimoto prototype Ford Fiesta ST intercooler cores

The core on the left has a loose fin composition and uses standard straight fins. The core on the right uses offset fins, meaning the rows are offset to provide greater contact surface area. Offset fins also result in a slightly higher restriction.

To conduct testing for these cores, we needed to attach our end tanks. With time constraints in place, we decided to use the end tanks from our rejected prototypes.


Mishimoto prototype Ford Fiesta ST intercooler core fabrication

Once separated, the powder coat was removed so we had a clean surface for welding.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts fabrication


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts fabrication

Our talented fabrication team then laid down some impressive welds to finish the prototype fabrication.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts fabrication

Coming Up – Additional Testing

Next time we will be testing these two new prototype intercoolers on our Fiesta. Based on the data we collect; we should be able to start producing our first batch of coolers soon.

Keep an eye on our blog for additional updates on upcoming Fiesta ST performance parts.

Thanks for reading!
-John
 


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So it's been a couple of weeks. Any news or progress?
All of their treads are dead as of late actually. They must be focusing on other platforms these past few weeks.
Sorry guys. Things have been a bit hectic in the shop lately but we are definitely moving along. Data crunch is complete and I should have a post together early next week. We've finalized our core design and have started producing our first batch of units.

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-John
 


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Sorry guys. Things have been a bit hectic in the shop lately but we are definitely moving along. Data crunch is complete and I should have a post together early next week. We've finalized our core design and have started producing our first batch of units.

Thanks
-John
Good to know! Can't wait to get one! [rockon]
 


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Final update before our pre-sale!

Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Fiesta ST Intercooler R&D, Part 6: Prototype Testing Round 2

We are narrowing down our selection of core designs through both extensive research and some pretty neat testing processes. After seeing some impressive heat transfer numbers on our first round of Ford Fiesta ST intercooler testing, we decided to focus on producing a better balance between pressure drop and reduction of intake temperatures.

New prototypes were constructed, and we were ready to make some dyno runs.


Testing Fiesta ST performance parts


Testing Fiesta ST performance parts

These dyno runs included two prototype cores, which were compared to the stock intercooler. Although both cores are of the bar-and-plate style, we intend to use this data to finalize our tube-and-fin intercooler. We saw higher pressure drops with our previous round of testing, so with this testing, we hope to determine the optimal core density that will provide an ideal compromise between pressure drop and heat transfer.

Pressure Drop Data

First, let’s take a look at the pressure drop numbers from each of the cores we tested during the development of this cooler.


Testing Fiesta ST performance parts

This plot is a bit much to take in at once. Below is a quick chart showing the average pressure drop for each cooler we tested.



As you can see, prototypes from our first round of testing showed far too much pressure drop. Although this translated into massive temperature drops, we wanted to see if we could provide a better blend. Our second set of prototype cores showed much more promising pressure drop data that hovered right around the average of the stock cooler.

Temperature Data

The data collected above show very promising pressure drop numbers from our third and fourth prototype cores. As long as these coolers provide improved cooling benefits, we can consider them for our final core selections. Let’s jump right to the temperature data.


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler testing data

The chart above clearly depicts a serious difference in cooling ability between the tested cores. The stock unit performed worst among the three cores. The fourth prototype core improved slightly over stock, while the third prototype design showed very impressive heat rejection.

The data above are summarized in the chart below.



One of the key columns of this chart shows the rise in outlet temperatures. Our fourth prototype is a slight improvement over stock; however, the third prototype is essentially unaffected by the pull. We see barely any temperature change during the test.

Can you guess which core we selected?

Our third prototype provides a 20-degree drop in outlet temperatures while resulting in only a 0.2 psi difference in average pressure drop during a pull. This prototype will be a tube-and-fin cooler in its final design. It will be a lightweight cooler that still allows ample airflow to the radiator for engine cooling.

Coming Up – Ford Fiesta ST Intercooler Discounted Pre-sale

It is time to get these intercoolers into the hands of customers for independent testing. Our team has started producing the first batch of units, and we will be launching a discounted pre-sale for forum members. Check back soon for details regarding pricing information and shipment dates.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to follow-up with any questions!

Keep an eye on our blog for more updates on upcoming Fiesta ST performance parts.
-John
 


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I'm in for pre-sale if the price is good for canadian buyers! I was wondering to get a kind of combo IC/IC pipe kit if it can be available it will be really nice!
 


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I'm in for a pre sale too, the yellow one would be really unique on my molten orange. Please make a yellow one!
 


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Perfect timing for me too I've been waiting to pull the trigger before the summer heat gets here
 




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