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Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Intercooler R&D!

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Thanks for taking a look Azov! We have another update on this project coming in the near future.





Thanks for the input guys! Yes, we are very aware of the folks using our J-Line unit on both the Fiesta and Focus. That cooler is quite large and efficient, it is rated to around 500 whp. Our goal with this project is a kit directed at the Fiesta, which provides factory-like bolt-on fitment and supports high horsepower ST's. The J-line installs quite well on this model, but still requires trimming of the bumper/grille due to the thickness of the core (3.75"). In addition, we will be tweaking the core to function optimally with pressure/heat generated by the EB.

Thanks!
-John
That'd be the Focuses that need to trim the bumper to clear the J-Line. We didn't have to trim anything to get the J-line we installed here to fit into the stock bumper fascia and clear all the undertray stuff, but that is a large core for the car and the need for an auxiliary bracket to support it plus the necessary elbow joints and couplers were tricky to get sorted. it'll be nice to have a direct bolt in FMIC that'll be available at a reasonable price.

Mishimoto FMICs are super popular at work (ModBargains/ModAuto - and BTW I'm NOT in sales; please don't ask me for quotes) - especially their direct fit FMIC for BMW E9X 335i fitments.
 


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That'd be the Focuses that need to trim the bumper to clear the J-Line. We didn't have to trim anything to get the J-line we installed here to fit into the stock bumper fascia and clear all the undertray stuff, but that is a large core for the car and the need for an auxiliary bracket to support it plus the necessary elbow joints and couplers were tricky to get sorted. it'll be nice to have a direct bolt in FMIC that'll be available at a reasonable price.

Mishimoto FMICs are super popular at work (ModBargains/ModAuto - and BTW I'm NOT in sales; please don't ask me for quotes) - especially their direct fit FMIC for BMW E9X 335i fitments.
Thanks BlueBomber! After looking a bit further, it does appear as though some have installed this cooler with no cutting or very minor trimming. This is quite impressive considering the thickness of this cooler. Perhaps Ford assumed enthusiasts would be sliding a larger cooler in place of the stocker and left a little room. As you noted, the J-line is a bit large for the Fiesta, it is rated to around 500-550 whp based on the internal volume, surface area, and core design. This unit should have no issues supporting the FIST. Our direct-fit design will end up slightly smaller but will be designed with a core oriented at the flow/heat produced by the ST. It will be interesting to see our temperature data once we have both of our prototype cores completed.

Thanks for the input!

-John
 


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Any update on this project?
Not at the moment. Once our initial prototypes are complete we will be performing a ton of testing with each different core. We will update you guys with images once they are in!

Thanks for the interest.
-John
 


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what about now? Pulling the trigger on an intercooler soon but wanting that damn gold color...
Sorry, no current updates on the intercooler. We are still working up our first set of prototypes for product testing. We are expecting completion within 3-4 weeks, and will begin testing each core we designed. Should be some really cool data!

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Man I want to see this thing happen, I need an intercooler soon
I feel as though you may have abandoned the Fiesta....
yeah, I think their swamped with other projects like the ND Miata.
Sorry for the delays guys. I assure you we have not abandoned the Fiesta. We still have numerous projects in the works, some of them just take a bit of time. We are working on the ND as well, but keep in mind we have numerous engineers working on several projects at a time. When they are waiting for information, prototype creation/fabrication, or component collection, they start other projects. We have a very efficient scheduling team, so our team is always working to churn out awesome products.

We are still working up our first functional prototype intercoolers for testing. Keep in mind we are creating several different cores to test each on our FIST for evaluation of flow within the cooler, flow through the external fins, and most importantly heat transfer. We should have these prototypes complete in around 3 weeks, which will be followed by a few weeks of rigorous testing. I assure you it will be worth the wait. Our testing follow-up will have some interesting information, and we will be sure to keep you informed when the prototypes are complete (images to come!).

Thanks for the continued interest guys!

-John
 


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Our prototypes are ready for testing. Quick teaser shot with a full gallery coming next week.



Thanks
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Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Intercooler R&D!

Lmk if you need some data points from Florida with a hard tuned car.
 


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Big update!

Beat The Heat! Mishimoto Fiesta ST Intercooler R&D, Part 3: Completed Prototypes

We’re back with another update! Our team has been busy constructing our functional Ford Fiesta ST (FIST) intercooler prototypes, putting a lot of work into the R&D design stages, and now we get to see if it pay off. Enough of the wait, lets jump right into some images of our five prototype coolers.


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes

You might need a few seconds to let your heart rate recover!

We have quite a bit going on in these images. As you can see, there are three different color options. Each finish is powder-coated, and we intend to offer black, silver, and gold coolers for those looking to add some bold styling.

In addition to the various colors, we have three different cores among these five prototypes: one tube-and-fin core and two different bar-and-plate cores. Our goal here is to evaluate the differences in pressure, temperature, and power output between our prototype cores and the stock cooler. Take a look at this image showing the two different core styles.


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes

The silver cooler has a bar-and-plate core that can be identified by the flat bars running horizontally from one side of the cooler to the other. The gold cooler has a tube-and-fin core that our team designed. This type of cooler uses tubes instead of bars; the tubes are identified by their rounded edges.

So you may be thinking, why try both cores? We want to provide you guys with the best cooler possible, and both these cores offer different advantages and disadvantages.

Tube-and-Fin Intercooler


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

As with most stock intercoolers, the FIST comes with a tube-and-fin style cooler. Our design differs slightly by modifying the internal and external fins to promote greater heat transfer. We’ve also increased core thickness, which should aid in efficiency.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

Let’s take a look at the pros and cons of the tube-and-fin core type.

Advantages

  • Lightweight
  • Greater airflow through the core exterior

Disadvantages

  • Reduced resistance to damage
  • Typically less heat transfer than a bar-and-plate core

Normally our direct-fit intercooler kits contain bar-and-plate coolers. So why are we changing our protocol here? Two reasons: weight and airflow. We know from experience that the FIST has issues keeping coolant temperatures stable while on the track, and vehicle owners are desperate for a solution. A bar-and-plate cooler in the front of the radiator will further block airflow to the radiator, but a free-flowing tube-and-fin unit helps with airflow, especially in a vehicle where this airflow is so important.

We also want to address weight with our design. A bar-and-plate cooler of comparable size is around three times the weight of the tube-and-fin. The FIST is a hot-hatch that is intended to be small and nimble. We need to be careful with how much weight is added to the car so we do not disrupt the balance.

We will explore all these issues with more testing! If we can produce efficient temperature drops with our tube-and-fin core design, it might be the way to go.

Bar-and-Plate Intercooler

Following our traditional line of intercoolers, we also designed a couple bar-and-plate coolers.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

As with the tube-style cooler, this design offers a few advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages

  • Increased cooling efficiency
  • Better resistance to physical damage
  • Larger internal volume within the same exterior footprint

Disadvantages

  • Heavier
  • Limits airflow speed through the core exterior

The key benefit with this design is efficiency. The primary goal of any heat exchanger is to reduce temperatures, and we want to ensure that our team designs a product that excels in that task.

As noted, we have worked up two different prototype bar-and-plate coolers. After some heat-transfer calculations and using our experience from previous projects, we designed two cores differing in bar height and fin size. The changes here will have an impact on flow through the internal core passage and external heat-transfer points. We should see differences in both pressure and temperature during our tests of these two cores.

End Tank

One of the distinguishing features of all the intercooler prototypes is our cast aluminum end tank. This portion of the design is extremely important.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

Casting the tanks allows us to achieve a few things. First, it provides a very strong end that will support high boost levels. In addition, there are far fewer failure points, as the tank is essentially one piece that is welded to the core.

On top of these two benefits, casting our tanks allows us to design the internal shape and size to produce optimal airflow with as little restriction as possible. We can also shape the tank so that air is spread throughout the core instead of passing through only a portion of it. This effect is even more valuable in taller intercoolers, but it applies to our FIST unit as well.

Below is a look at our two different gold prototype cores and the stock cooler.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

Core Thickness

Core thickness is often discussed relative to horsepower support. Although it does play a role, other factors such as core surface area and fin composition will also make a big impact. We snapped a few shots showing the increases in size each cooler provides.


Mishimoto Fiesta ST performance parts

The stock cooler measures right around 2” in thickness. Not the thinnest cooler we’ve seen, but it can certainly be improved.


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes

Our tube-and-fin design adds 0.5” of thickness compared to the stock cooler. This, combined with an altered fin design, will produce some nice improvements in intake manifold temperatures.


Ford Fiesta ST intercooler prototypes

The bar-and-plate prototypes we designed come in at just under 3” in thickness, providing even greater volume.

Coming Up – Testing

We’ve got a lot of fun work ahead! Next time we will be testing the stock intercooler against all three of our different prototype coolers. Keep an eye out for upcoming dyno videos and plots showing our results.

Also, be sure to check our blog for additional updates on upcoming Fiesta ST performance parts.

Thanks for reading!
-John
 




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