Don't Let Oil Temps Stop The Fiesta! Mishimoto Oil Cooler R&D!

[koozy]

Which sandwich plate are you using?

thermostatic.

 

[mishimoto1]

Finally got around to getting the oil cooler on. A couple of photos and notes.

- A nice kit and everything fit together well. The oil cooler mounted with the Mishimoto brackets looks like OE.

- I installed the lines on to the oil cooler first, which negated the need to remove the lower diversion panel to allow tightening the lines on the cooler later. The lines are going towards the passenger side anyways wether they're locked down now or later.

- I spent most of my time trying to get the hoses in correct alignment and squeeze them through the hole behind the crash beam. It's a tight fit, especially for 2 hoses and their fittings.

- I trimmed the upper diversion panel to accommodate the hoses that now occupy some of it's space. There was no mention of this by Mishimoto. I'd rather have it on the car, than in a left over parts box so I trimmed it.

- Coolant temps are roughly ~10 deg F. cooler than oil temps now during casual drives with both oil and coolant hovering around 190deg F. at times on a 80deg F. day. Definitely notice the impact on coolant temps not getting as hot.

- I am reminded how much I hate working with coolant, especially while on your back and it becomes a slippery mess.

- I haven't had the chance to wring it out yet to test how much the cooler will affect temps when pushed especially in hot temps, but hopeful since oil cooling load is now taken away from the coolant.

Very great to hear the kit install went well for you! Thank you very much for posting up your feedback. The noted plastic panel can either be removed or trimmed if you would prefer to retain it. The lower diversion panel (on top of the intercooler) should not require any modification.

Check back in once you've logged some more mileage!

Thanks again.
-John

 

[koozy]

I'm really happy with this oil cooler kit. The quality, fitment and performance has met my expectations. Most importantly the temperatures are noticeably cooler for both oil and coolant, even under normal driving conditions it's cooler than with the OE setup. At this rate and for my use I am almost certain I won't be needing to upgrade the radiator anytime soon now that the oil cooler has taken the oil cooling load away from the radiator.

Normal driving conditions with oil cooler on the street and highway temperature range.
OIL: 185 ~ 210 deg F.
COOLANT: 190 ~ 197 deg F.


I had a chance to revisit a canyon where I recorded peak coolant and oil temps prior to the oil cooler.

Peak temps prior to oil cooler:
OIL: 246 deg F.
COOLANT: 229 deg F.


Peak temps after oil cooler installation:
OIL: 225 deg F.
COOLANT: 205 deg F.


Temp reduction:
OIL: -21 deg F.
COOLANT: -24 deg F.

 

[golfhack]

Nice results! Now I have to save up my pennies before next summer.

 

[mishimoto1]

I'm really happy with this oil cooler kit. The quality, fitment and performance has met my expectations. Most importantly the temperatures are noticeably cooler for both oil and coolant, even under normal driving conditions it's cooler than with the OE setup. At this rate and for my use I am almost certain I won't be needing to upgrade the radiator anytime soon now that the oil cooler has taken the oil cooling load away from the radiator.

Normal driving conditions with oil cooler on the street and highway temperature range.
OIL: 185 ~ 210 deg F.
COOLANT: 190 ~ 197 deg F.

I had a chance to revisit a canyon where I recorded peak coolant and oil temps prior to the oil cooler.

Peak temps prior to oil cooler:
OIL: 246 deg F.
COOLANT: 229 deg F.

Peak temps after oil cooler installation:
OIL: 225 deg F.
COOLANT: 205 deg F.

Temp reduction:
OIL: -21 deg F.
COOLANT: -24 deg F.

Awesome results! Thank you very much for posting Koozy!

-John

 

[AMontgomery]

I wonder if it would be easiest to do a big intercooler (dhm with crash bar) install along with one of your radiators (once completed) and this oil cooler. Top it off with a catch can and you have a healthy dose of preventative medicine all while only having the front facia removed once.

This definitely makes some gears turn in my head.

A quick question, is there any way to mount an oil pressure sending unit with the oil cooler? This may have been covered elsewhere in the thread but I didn't see it.

 

[koozy]

there's a port on the sandwich adapter for an oil temp or pressure sender source.

 

[AMontgomery]

Thanks. Is it plugged up in the standard install?

 

[koozy]

yep it's plugged up. whether there physically any room will depend on the size of the sensor, otherwise another source may be used or remote mount.

 

[jayrod1980]

This is a really nice looking part... does anyone think it will work with the DHM giant IC and crashbar? I don't know how much clearance there is considering that it's so thick. It's hard in these pictures to get a proper look at how much space the oil cooler takes up. I will be in Las Vegas the next 4-5 years and I will probably need one of these babies. Since I've already ordered the IC and crashbar, I would like to install it right away rather than have to take the front end off another time.

 

[jayrod1980]

Looking at a load of pictures, both with the cooler mounted and the DHM monster IC, it will not fit... I don't know where there would be room anywhere to mount one of these unless you made one a couple inches smaller to fit between that vertical tie from the crash bar to the frame. Bummer.

 

[mishimoto1]

I wonder if it would be easiest to do a big intercooler (dhm with crash bar) install along with one of your radiators (once completed) and this oil cooler. Top it off with a catch can and you have a healthy dose of preventative medicine all while only having the front facia removed once.
This definitely makes some gears turn in my head.
A quick question, is there any way to mount an oil pressure sending unit with the oil cooler? This may have been covered elsewhere in the thread but I didn't see it.

The DHM bar is certainly a nice piece, however it eliminates the mounting points that we tie into with our direct fit cooler brackets. If you intend to install our cooler setup with this aftermarket crash bar, you will need to fabricate custom brackets. Assuming you place the cooler in a similar location, the lines and sandwich plate should function just fine. Just a heads up if you intend to go down this road. Otherwise, I definitely like the plans you have for your FIST, should provide some nice cooling benefits and reduce issues related to oil entry into the intake tract.

there's a port on the sandwich adapter for an oil temp or pressure sender source.

Thanks. Is it plugged up in the standard install?

Thanks Koozy! Our sandwich plate includes two 1/8” NPT ports for sensor install. The plate arrives with both ports plugged so you don’t have to worry about tracking down plugs prior to install.

This is a really nice looking part... does anyone think it will work with the DHM giant IC and crashbar? I don't know how much clearance there is considering that it's so thick. It's hard in these pictures to get a proper look at how much space the oil cooler takes up. I will be in Las Vegas the next 4-5 years and I will probably need one of these babies. Since I've already ordered the IC and crashbar, I would like to install it right away rather than have to take the front end off another time.

Looking at a load of pictures, both with the cooler mounted and the DHM monster IC, it will not fit... I don't know where there would be room anywhere to mount one of these unless you made one a couple inches smaller to fit between that vertical tie from the crash bar to the frame. Bummer.

Sorry Jayrod! You are correct that our oil cooler setup is not compatible with the DHM setup. The tubular crash bar eliminates the mounting points we tie into for our oil cooler brackets. In addition, the intercooler included is very tall, leaving no space for our oil cooler. A short, longer cooler would be necessary for these two products to work together, along with customer brackets and lines.

-John

 

[westcoaST]

Can you provide the dimensions of the oil intercooler? I'm thinking of purchasing one today, but I have the DHM IC, so I'd like to see if the Mishi oil cooler will fit. What is your return policy if I cannot marry your oil cooler to my IC. I know I'll have to make some brackets. What material and thickness do you use for this application?

 

[meFiSTo]

Thanks Koozy! Our sandwich plate includes two 1/8” NPT ports for sensor install. The plate arrives with both ports plugged so you don’t have to worry about tracking down plugs prior to install.

That's good to know. Makes things a little easier for wiring up a combo temp/pressure gauge. Something like this: http://www.veisystems.com/ws/oil-pr...function-bar/units_second_function-fahrenheit

 

[RAAMaudio]

I will look up the specs on the oil cooler I am running with the DHM crash bar and big IC, I did an oil cooler upgrade as soon as I bought the car, it was lots of fun figuring it all out, finding the part to install the plate took even longer so I had to do that part later..it sure would of been nice to just buy a kit even if I had to still make my own mounts to install the cooler.

NOTE:
Dirt cheap and easy upgrade, use a bigger oil filter, adds a bit of capacity, a little more surface area for a tiny bit of cooling and more filtering with little added weight. I use NAPA Gold filters, made by WIX, widely known as a very good filter for a very good price, an even larger unit can be used than this one but I had spares from my first install when I had to leave the stock cooler in place, just disconnected, until I found the part I needed to remove it and install just the plate.

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NOTE 2:
Free way to increase air flow in and out of all the coolers.
1) Drill big holes in the crash sensor mount bar, or as I did later build a much smaller new one.
2) Drill holes in the lower radiator support between the grids, I used a step bit for this, it opens up quite a bit of flow and removes a little bit of weight.

I will post a picture when I find one.

NOTE 3:
SEAL up everything you can so no air can go around the coolers, ABS sheet works great as easy to cut, low weight, easy to mold using a heat gun or carefully with a propane torch.

 

[AMontgomery]

Can you provide the dimensions of the oil intercooler? I'm thinking of purchasing one today, but I have the DHM IC, so I'd like to see if the Mishi oil cooler will fit. What is your return policy if I cannot marry your oil cooler to my IC. I know I'll have to make some brackets. What material and thickness do you use for this application?

I'm planning on a similar setup. It would be sweet if you could snap a few pictures of your install and mounts as you do them (if you do them) I'd love to see what you come up with, hell, maybe mock something up and see if DHM could offer it as an option on their crash bar.

 

[mishimoto1]

Can you provide the dimensions of the oil intercooler? I'm thinking of purchasing one today, but I have the DHM IC, so I'd like to see if the Mishi oil cooler will fit. What is your return policy if I cannot marry your oil cooler to my IC. I know I'll have to make some brackets. What material and thickness do you use for this application?

Sure thing! The specs for our 19-row cooler used within our direct fit kit are noted below.

Core
L: 11"
H: 5.43"
D: 1.97"

Overall (Includes Mounts)
L: 12.95"
H: 6.44"
D: 1.97"

The brackets included in our kit are constructed from powder coated steel measuring 2mm in thickness.

Let us know how the project goes!

I will look up the specs on the oil cooler I am running with the DHM crash bar and big IC, I did an oil cooler upgrade as soon as I bought the car, it was lots of fun figuring it all out, finding the part to install the plate took even longer so I had to do that part later..it sure would of been nice to just buy a kit even if I had to still make my own mounts to install the cooler.

NOTE:
Dirt cheap and easy upgrade, use a bigger oil filter, adds a bit of capacity, a little more surface area for a tiny bit of cooling and more filtering with little added weight. I use NAPA Gold filters, made by WIX, widely known as a very good filter for a very good price, an even larger unit can be used than this one but I had spares from my first install when I had to leave the stock cooler in place, just disconnected, until I found the part I needed to remove it and install just the plate.

# 1355

NOTE 2:
Free way to increase air flow in and out of all the coolers.
1) Drill big holes in the crash sensor mount bar, or as I did later build a much smaller new one.
2) Drill holes in the lower radiator support between the grids, I used a step bit for this, it opens up quite a bit of flow and removes a little bit of weight.

I will post a picture when I find one.

NOTE 3:
SEAL up everything you can so no air can go around the coolers, ABS sheet works great as easy to cut, low weight, easy to mold using a heat gun or carefully with a propane torch.

Good thinking with the larger filter. Every little bit helps!

That's good to know. Makes things a little easier for wiring up a combo temp/pressure gauge. Something like this: http://www.veisystems.com/ws/oil-pr...function-bar/units_second_function-fahrenheit

Exactly!

-John

 

[haste]

The ONLY thing I have noticed about this kit by watching the install vid is the brackets holding the oil cooler seem a little thin and could possibly break from vibration further down the road. Anyone else have these thoughts after handling the brackets?

 

[koozy]

The ONLY thing I have noticed about this kit by watching the install vid is the brackets holding the oil cooler seem a little thin and could possibly break from vibration further down the road. Anyone else have these thoughts after handling the brackets?

Nope, not worried about that at all. The oil cooler isn't going anywhere and not concerned about the brackets breaking. They're pretty sturdy. Even if the brackets were to break or any other part of the kit were to become faulty, the product is backed by Mishimoto's warranty. If the car is in a front end accident and the oil cooler kit components get damaged Mishimoto is replacing it. Pretty awesome.

http://www.mishimoto.com/warranty-info.html

 

[mishimoto1]

The ONLY thing I have noticed about this kit by watching the install vid is the brackets holding the oil cooler seem a little thin and could possibly break from vibration further down the road. Anyone else have these thoughts after handling the brackets?

Nope, not worried about that at all. The oil cooler isn't going anywhere and not concerned about the brackets breaking. They're pretty sturdy. Even if the brackets were to break or any other part of the kit were to become faulty, the product is backed by Mishimoto's warranty. If the car is in a front end accident and the oil cooler kit components get damaged Mishimoto is replacing it. Pretty awesome.

Thanks Koozy! It is highly unlikely that the brackets will be damaged unless impacted during an accident. We've been designing these direct-fit kits for quite some time now and I am not aware of any failures attributed to material thickness and vibration. Bracket thickness is typically in the range of 2mm-2.5mm for steel, and 3.17mm when constructed from aluminum. As noted by Koozy, if a failure exists, our warranty will certainly cover any issues.

-John