The wait is over - Mountune Exhaust Is Out!

[aballphoto]

I still can't wrap my head around what they get for cat-backs these days.

I could buy the stainless tube and bends, a resonator, a muffler, and some tips, and weld it all together for less than half those prices. They are getting their tube, mufflers, and other parts at quite a discount, so they must be making 70% profit or more on them. Development time and man hours is low on exhausts so that's not an excuse either. Most of these shops already had a TIG, so it's not like they are passing the cost of buying a new one on to the customer.

Same goes with charging $700 for an intercooler, except dev time is much higher (at least it should be).

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Everyone thinks that all exhausts are the same... They aren't. I see this all the time, everyone thinks they can buy components and build a system for less money. In some cases they can, if they are trying to mimic a system that uses all the shelf components. But this system uses a helmholtz resonator -- there is a lot of engineering that goes into developing a resonator like this. Production of these resonators is complicated and time consuming. Also Helmholtz resonators are almost always a straight thru design.

Some companies might buy off-the-shelf mufflers and resonators but Mountune has designed this system from the ground up, this is an incredibly costly process in both materials and dev time. This isn't just some guy in a shed with a bender and some tubing welding shit together. This is a premium product, a lot of thought went into this.

I think this is a very reasonable price for this system. I am EXTREMELY interested.

 

[Natedogg]

That may make it worth it's weight in material and ridiculous amounts of dev time for an exhaust, but that doesn't make it a good buy. OTS components or not, welded mandrel elbows or not, made in a shed or not, if it flows straight through, doesn't weigh as much as a tank, won't fall apart, and sounds good, who cares what fancy resonator they used? That doesn't make it better than using an OTS resonator. Why pay for over engineering when you can get something that sounds better for less?

And I know I can buy the parts and build a system for way less. I've done it three times on three different builds. I've even used aluminized and never had it rust.

 

[Butterybunz]

I'm in love with my Injen. 304 stainless steel, 2 flow-through style mufflers, no drone, and under $600 shipped to my door. Plus I prefer the single burnt tip look.

 

[Azov]

I'm in love with my Injen. 304 stainless steel, 2 flow-through style mufflers, no drone, and under $600 shipped to my door. Plus I prefer the single burnt tip look.

and that single tip was what pushed me to build my own. It sounds great, but exhausts for the most part are a cosmetic upgrade (more sight and sound than performance)

 

[aballphoto]

That may make it worth it's weight in material and ridiculous amounts of dev time for an exhaust, but that doesn't make it a good buy. OTS components or not, welded mandrel elbows or not, made in a shed or not, if it flows straight through, doesn't weigh as much as a tank, won't fall apart, and sounds good, who cares what fancy resonator they used? That doesn't make it better than using an OTS resonator. Why pay for over engineering when you can get something that sounds better for less?

And I know I can buy the parts and build a system for way less. I've done it three times on three different builds. I've even used aluminized and never had it rust.

But it's not a ridiculous amount of dev time - it's a normal amount of dev time. Also, the resonator does make it better than a standard OTS muffler, because of how they work. If you are unfamiliar with Helmholtz resonators, please research them.

Exhausts are far more complicated than you may think. It may seem simple to just buy a few pieces and connect them and attach them to one car, but when you are designing a system that will go on possibly hundreds of cars there are a lot of things you have to consider. One being, not all cars are the same. Also things like flow are important, but so is back pressure - maintaining back pressure, getting sound, while eliminating drone is almost impossible without the right equipment. Thats where the engineering comes in. There are so many variables that contribute to the final sound of an exhaust. Things like bend radius and spacing, tubing thickness, flow path, and so on.

The price of this exhaust is due to a number of things.

Premium Materials
Premium Construction
Premium Engineering
Quality.

Most of your OTS components wont last much further than 30-40,000 miles. These kind of components will.

You may be very happy with your system, thats great, but don't make things up. You buying inferior components and attaching them to your car is not you building this system for less. They are not equal. I've seen well over a 2 dozen systems designed in the past year, it takes a very long time. It's not just grab this, grab that, weld it together. POOF! Exhaust! That may be ok for some people, but not everyone. Sorry to single you out, but I think it's important to educate people on what they are buying, or what is available.

This is a premium product and while it's not for everyone, don't downplay it because you think it's over priced. In my opinion, it's very competitively priced. I know what those components cost, and the FiST market is VERY small. So this is likely a very low margin product.

 

[RAAMaudio]

Life long DIY here and I build most of my own exhausts but not all of them and know what it takes to build a good one and what it costs to also run a business so these prices seem pretty nuts but they are not bad in the least.

Not many build a no drone exhaust, Magnaflow is notorious for horrible drone on some of their systems, personally and hundreds of people came to me for advice on them over the last 15 years on how to sound deaden. I always told them how to deaden the best way in their particular vehicle but it may not be all they have to do. It depends on how loud it was, their personal comfort level, etc and they may have to still modify the exhaust to fix it and many times I let them know they just had to fix the exhaust first then see if they still needed sound deadening, even if I lost a sale it was more important to me to help them fix the real issue at the source.

Not just that brand but by far the most complaints, quite a few on a Corsa on Vettes, I drove one, it was nuts loud, I had a different Corsa on my C6 convertible with long tube headers and it was very fine sounding and hardly any drone at all, so it was the design of the exhaust completely causing the issue, at the mufflers.

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That said, my FiST DIY system has a bit of drone, not real loud but annoying on a longer drive. I have a big resonator up front but small race muffler in the back, when I put on the straight pipe for the track there is not a lot more drone when accelerating or cruising but a huge jump to a very high level under deceleration, odd it is mostly there.

I am going to work on a Helmholtz resonator for the pipe right before the Vband for the straight pipe/muffler quick change so the resonator is always on. Much less weight than a bigger muffler and I have a lot of pipe sections to work with. I will find something that I can slip a pipe over a pipe and can tune it that way and then cut off what is not needed and weld it up nicely.

I am going to start a new thread on it actually

 

[Dsquared46]

I know this is an older thread, but Putting my 2 cents in anyway. Just bought and received a Mountune exhaust for the Valentine's Day 20% off sale. $591.00 shipped to my door. Can't beat that price for such a quality product. Sound is amazing, but subdued. The reduction in back pressure is obvious and downshifting points have to be relearned. Definitely more than a cosmetic upgrade. Also running MP215 upgrade. Amazing together.

 

[Butterybunz]

I know this is an older thread, but Putting my 2 cents in anyway. Just bought and received a Mountune exhaust for the Valentine's Day 20% off sale. $591.00 shipped to my door. Can't beat that price for such a quality product. Sound is amazing, but subdued. The reduction in back pressure is obvious and downshifting points have to be relearned. Definitely more than a cosmetic upgrade. Also running MP215 upgrade. Amazing together.

Dang, that's a good deal!

 

[Manuel]

I know this is an older thread, but Putting my 2 cents in anyway. Just bought and received a Mountune exhaust for the Valentine's Day 20% off sale. $591.00 shipped to my door. Can't beat that price for such a quality product. Sound is amazing, but subdued. The reduction in back pressure is obvious and downshifting points have to be relearned. Definitely more than a cosmetic upgrade. Also running MP215 upgrade. Amazing together.

Where did you get it on sale? Or did you buy it a few weeks ago?

 

[Dsquared46]

Where did you get it on sale? Or did you buy it a few weeks ago?

Mountune sent out an email for Valentine's Day sale for 20% off the exhaust. Lasted about a week and ended on V-day. Couldn't pass it up. Also ordered the Induction hose and should've ordered the symposer delete too. That will definitely be next.

 

[jeff]

Just installed my Mountune exhaust, these can be had for around $600 as someone said above, you just have to dig a little bit. Exhaust is awesome, sound and fit and quality are all fantastic.

Question, my exhaust tips are just a few millimeters from the bumper cover, they don't touch but they almost do, I was thinking of getting some longer exhaust hangers to bring them down a little more to show off the M logo. There's really only one way for it to fit, there is play in the three different sections of piping but the hangers are what determine where it sits and how far out. Wondered if anyone else had this same issue.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Just installed my Mountune exhaust, these can be had for around $600 as someone said above, you just have to dig a little bit. Exhaust is awesome, sound and fit and quality are all fantastic.

Question, my exhaust tips are just a few millimeters from the bumper cover, they don't touch but they almost do, I was thinking of getting some longer exhaust hangers to bring them down a little more to show off the M logo. There's really only one way for it to fit, there is play in the three different sections of piping but the hangers are what determine where it sits and how far out. Wondered if anyone else had this same issue.

I slightly bent the two hangers on the muffler section. Does not need much. I had to to get the tips to be level with the opening. Use a longish pipe and steady force, not a hammer. Same car be done with the hooks on the body.

 

[LilPartyBox]

different exhaust, but I placed zip ties on both sides of the rubber exhaust hanger, right on the muffler hanger, and used them to fine tune the alignment of the tips.

 

[jeff]

I slightly bent the two hangers on the muffler section. Does not need much. I had to to get the tips to be level with the opening. Use a longish pipe and steady force, not a hammer. Same car be done with the hooks on the body.

different exhaust, but I placed zip ties on both sides of the rubber exhaust hanger, right on the muffler hanger, and used them to fine tune the alignment of the tips.

Hey thanks for the quick response guys. I'm lazy after a long day at work - I'm gonna try the zip method with some HD ties, see how it does, and maybe bend the hooks next time I'm under the car.

 

[jeff]

Zip tied, I'm gonna hunt for a decent exhaust hanger that's a little longer to permanently fix this issue....till then the zip tie method places it perfectly and is quite sturdy:

 

[CanadianGuy]

Zip tied, I'm gonna hunt for a decent exhaust hanger that's a little longer to permanently fix this issue....till then the zip tie method places it perfectly and is quite sturdy:

Looks good but likely not to last. Zip ties are prone to shock brake and if the exhaust can bounce up it can snap them on the way down. Even though the are call exhaust hangers they also work to prevent the exhaust from bouncing up. I would recommend getting a 4 hole hanger for long term solution.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=4+Holes+Exhaust+Hanger

 

[jeff]

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Looks good but likely not to last. Zip ties are prone to shock brake and if the exhaust can bounce up it can snap them on the way down. Even though the are call exhaust hangers they also work to prevent the exhaust from bouncing up. I would recommend getting a 4 hole hanger for long term solution.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=4+Holes+Exhaust+Hanger

Thanks man, yes I was looking around yesterday locally and did not find any options, I want something that's pretty heavy duty. I'm going to look a bit more over the next few days and if I don't find anything I will be ordering something like you recommended. I appreciate it.

 

[CanadianGuy]

W

Thanks man, yes I was looking around yesterday locally and did not find any options, I want something that's pretty heavy duty. I'm going to look a bit more over the next few days and if I don't find anything I will be ordering something like you recommended. I appreciate it.

No worries. With the cobb hangers and some slight adjustment of the hanger bolt I can put a finger between bumper and tips.

 

[OCS12]

W

Thanks man, yes I was looking around yesterday locally and did not find any options, I want something that's pretty heavy duty. I'm going to look a bit more over the next few days and if I don't find anything I will be ordering something like you recommended. I appreciate it.

At the very least, as a different temporary solution while you work on the proper fix, I'd spend two bucks and replace the zip ties with a hose clamp.

 

[CanadianGuy]

BTW here is what I was mentioning on adjusting the hanger bolts. Just need a spanner. I did mine with the muffler on the car.

[video=youtube;35-SSKcDanY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35-SSKcDanY[/video]