NEW: MeisterR Coilovers for Fiesta ST, $995 Delivered

[MeisterR]

Hello Everyone,

My name is Jerrick and I am from MeisterR.
MeisterR is a suspension specialist from the UK, and we just recently expanded to the USA.

We want to start off offering our new generation ZetaCRD+ Coilovers to the Fiesta ST community.
As we are starting new, we are going to do a blanket 20% discount on all coilovers with free delivery.

This brings the MSRP of $1250 down to $995 delivered.

We have the ZetaCRD+ available for the Fiesta ST:

ZetaCRD+ Specification:
*Aluminium Front Top Mount with Spherical Bearing and Camber Adjustment.
*Aluminium Rear Top Mount with harden rubber bush (OEM inboard springs design).
*Monotube damper with 32 stage damping adjustment (Compression and Rebound Combined)
*10% thicker damper rod diameter for increase strength (compare to previous generation)
*Linear Rate SAE9254 Chrome Silicon Steel Springs.
*Springs Coil Noise Insulator.
*Lengthen Heavy Duty Rubber boot.
*Unique UK Patent Pending Non-Slip Aluminium Spring Perch & Locking Collar.
*Dual Perch Coilovers Construction (Independent Springs Tension and Ride Height Setting)

ZetaCRD+: Designed for fast road & track use, with focus on fast road use.
This is the most common setup for most UK owners, as this is design for road compound tyres and deal with uneven road surfaces comfortably.
Most regard this setup as compliant as OEM, but more responsive.

Springs rate:
Fiesta ST: Front 5kg/mm, Rear 3kg/mm


The ZetaCRD is our newest generation design incorporating our Close Ratio Damping technology.
The entire damping design are engineer in house in our UK workshop along with our technical partner Black Art Design.
This allow the dampers to provide responsive feedback on stiffer damping adjustments for track use, while providing great compliancy over uneven road surfaces on softer adjustment for daily usage.

Here is a damper dyno to show what the CRD looks like:

We are happy to be able to offer our newest suspension to the Fiesta ST community.
All coilovers are kept in stock in our USA workshop / warehouse, and will come with 1 year warranty serviced by us .

How to Order?
We are in the middle of building a brand new website, so stay tune for more info.
We have setup a temporary webshop to take all order online at:

http://www.meisterrcoilovers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_31&products_id=68


If you have any questions or comment, please feel free to let me know.
I am always happy to answer any concerns.


UPDATE:

Have a look for a few questions that people ask especially regarding the front camber adjustments:
So here is the answer I got from a member in UK Fiesta forum using the MeisterR Coilovers.

teeman:
I've got Meister r's and didn't have to cut the top mount to fit the camber bit in, do have to drop the leg down and use a ball ended Allen key to adjust the camber though.
You don't have to cut the centre hole if you go -1.5 but if you went more you would mate -1.75 touches on the hole.

I also got the UK warehouse to send me a few quick photo of the ST180 ZetaCRD+ kit.
I will get some better picture later in the week when I get a set over from our USA warehouse, so this is just a little teaser.

Jerrick

 

[Hijinx]

What is the maximum height of your coilovers? Is the rear a true coilover or spring and shock combo? Inverted shocks? How often do they need to be rebuilt? Will the parts for the rebuild be readily available?


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[skidro87]

Beat me to it! Would like to know the range as well.

 

[MeisterR]

What is the maximum height of your coilovers? Is the rear a true coilover or spring and shock combo? Inverted shocks? How often do they need to be rebuilt? Will the parts for the rebuild be readily available?

I don't actually have a maximum height number, never been asked that.
looking at the drawing, the front is not a problem as it is MacPherson Strut, so OEM height is easy.
The rear is an in board springs design, we have adjusted to the request of UK members so it actually come with a longer springs than our first version.
I generally use the -25mm as a conservative reference, so at max ride height setting, it should not lower the car more than the common lowering springs on the market.

We use an in-board springs design in the rear.
Generally speaking, that design is a bit better as it mean you don't have to worry about turret reinforcement.

We use an upright damper also in our coilovers.
We used to offer inverted long ago, but pull off that design as customers complained about the additional upkeep required.
We have taken our upright design to Rally Cross with a BMW Mini Cooper, and the front had no problem handling that.

There really isn't a "set" interval for rebuild.
Generally speaking Mono-Tube damper don't have much wear and tear internal parts.
If it fails, it normally fails catastrophically.

The damper of the ZetaCRD had proven to be pretty reliable over the years.
But you will get cases where debris score damper shaft, and in cases like this the damper will fail.
We provide 1 year warranty, so if the damper fail we will sort it out the long as there isn't some noticeable physical damage.

We will have all spares held in our USA warehouse.
Generally speaking we do not do rebuild of the ZetaCRD as a replacement core damper unit works out cheaper.
Aside from down time and shipping cost, a new damper core unit is only $150 each.
So if your damper fail, you can just remove all the parts and replace the damper core unit, then be on your way.
No waiting weeks for workshop to rebuild, or days for UPS to send the damper back and forth.

Hope that answer some questions, any other questions please feel free to let me know.

Jerrick

 

[Hijinx]

[MENTION=4680]MeisterR[/MENTION] the reason I ask about the maximum height is because some of us run a taller tire (205/45-17). The common lowering springs in combination with the taller tire presents rubbing issues. So if I could, I'd want to lower the car no more than an inch (25.4mm).


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[MeisterR]

[MENTION=4680]MeisterR[/MENTION] the reason I ask about the maximum height is because some of us run a taller tire (205/45-17). The common lowering springs in combination with the taller tire presents rubbing issues. So if I could, I'd want to lower the car no more than an inch (25.4mm).


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I see, that should be do-able.
We got to get a set on the car to check first, but don't sound out of this world.

Another thing is because the springs will now be a stiffer linear rate springs, the rear wheel will move a little less vs. progressive springs.
The rear suspension of the Fiesta ST is very sensitive to springs rate change, so this is one part where you will see very noticeable improvement.

Jerrick

 

[Hijinx]

I see, that should be do-able.
We got to get a set on the car to check first, but don't sound out of this world.

Another thing is because the springs will now be a stiffer linear rate springs, the rear wheel will move a little less vs. progressive springs.
The rear suspension of the Fiesta ST is very sensitive to springs rate change, so this is one part where you will see very noticeable improvement.

Jerrick

Awesome. A couple more questions:

Do the fronts have the ABS bracket (minor issue)? What about the counterweight bracket (not a deal breaker)? And these sets are already in stock?

 

[MeisterR]

Awesome. A couple more questions:

Do the fronts have the ABS bracket (minor issue)? What about the counterweight bracket (not a deal breaker)? And these sets are already in stock?

Yes, I have the ZetaCRD+ coilovers for the Fiesta ST in stock in our USA warehouse already.
As far as ABS bracket or counter weight bracket, my dealer who have sold them and fitted them in the UK haven't mention anything.

If it something that need addressing, i can always do so in future order.
Generally speaking, ABS bracket are only minor issue that can be adjusted during installation, it is there so no need to bring out the cable tie.

Jerrick

 

[Hijinx]

Yes, I have the ZetaCRD+ coilovers for the Fiesta ST in stock in our USA warehouse already.
As far as ABS bracket or counter weight bracket, my dealer who have sold them and fitted them in the UK haven't mention anything.

If it something that need addressing, i can always do so in future order.
Generally speaking, ABS bracket are only minor issue that can be adjusted during installation, it is there so no need to bring out the cable tie.

Jerrick

Thanks for the patience and answering all these questions because I just thought of another :/

The U.K. website says they are engineered in house. It implies that they are built from the ground up by Meister; no subsidized or partnered parts from other companies. I.e. ST Suspension is the "lower cost"partner of KW suspension etc. etc. Is my previous assumption correct?

Thanks again, Jerrick for the patience and answers.

 

[koozy]

can you post actual photos of the coil overs for the Fiesta ST. that way we can see the brackets for the ABS, counter weitght, etc. Also since there's a adjustable top hat, does a hole have to be drilled on the top strut mount to gain access to the camber adjustments?

 

[MeisterR]

Thanks for the patience and answering all these questions because I just thought of another :/

The U.K. website says they are engineered in house. It implies that they are built from the ground up by Meister; no subsidized or partnered parts from other companies. I.e. ST Suspension is the "lower cost"partner of KW suspension etc. etc. Is my previous assumption correct?

Thanks again, Jerrick for the patience and answers.

Not a problem, alway happy to answer.

It is engineered in house, but according to you then not from ground up.
We have technical partner in the UK such as Black Art Design who is our in house technical partner, as well as R&D department.

The main thing we can say is that the MeisterR "specification" are engineered in house.
The damper valving of the ZetaCRD won't be find on any other suspensions, because we engineered the internal specification.

We aren't like a lot of other suspension company that only buy what is available off the shelf, because we have our own R&D department with in house vehicle dynamic engineer.
Our technical partner have had track record success in racing, as well as providing suspension to OEM, government, and military special projects.
Those are the experience we used when designing suspension under the MeisterR flag.

I hope that helps answer a few things.

Jerrick

 

[MeisterR]

can you post actual photos of the coil overs for the Fiesta ST. that way we can see the brackets for the ABS, counter weitght, etc. Also since there's a adjustable top hat, does a hole have to be drilled on the top strut mount to gain access to the camber adjustments?

I took some pictures off my customers coilovers.
They are the MeisterR GT1, which is an uprated version of the ZetaCRD.

The outer chassis is the same, but the internal is all different.
And there is our famous spring cover.

But you can have a good look at our ST180 top mount and the lower bracket.

Let me know if you got any questions.

Jerrick

 

[koozy]

I can't see if there's a hole for the ABS wire to mount to in those photos. The hole should be located on the lower strut mount.

It also looks like a hole has to be cut open on the car to access the camber adjustment on the pillow ball mount once the coilover is on the car to avoid having to remove the coilover assembly to make adjustments.

 

[MeisterR]

I can't see if there's a hole for the ABS wire to mount to in those photos. The hole should be located on the lower strut mount.

It also looks like a hole has to be cut open on the car to access the camber adjustment on the pillow ball mount once the coilover is on the car to avoid having to remove the coilover assembly to make adjustments.

I am not sure about this ABS wires to be honest.
Looking on my engineering drawing on the strut mount, between the two 12mm hole that bolt onto the hub, there is a 8mm hole.
Would this be it?

As for the camber adjustments, that is pretty much a limitation of the chassis so not much we can do.
But the top bolt hole is elongated by 2mm, so you can push the hub in further to gain negative camber.

Jerrick

 

[TyphoonFiST]

How do these stand up to the elements?

 

[CanadianGuy]

I took some pictures off my customers coilovers.
They are the MeisterR GT1, which is an uprated version of the ZetaCRD.

Let me know if you got any questions.

Jerrick

Wait a sec, what is this MeisterR GT1, even though its a track coil, is it available for the Fiesta? Looks really good. I really like the cover is that only and option that can be added to all coil overs. Sorry if we pester and thank you for your replies. And following on a question from Hijinx. He mentions 205/45R17. Personally I run 215/45R17 in winter and would want the ride height back to stock. Not because of spring movement but to make sure the snow has room to escape and that I can go over a larger amount of snow (which is always more fun when there is more snow). The question I have is can these be risen back to stock height, I kinda see you start saying yes but not finishing the though, maybe in the rear I would need to reuse the stock spring. Would the rear damper be over extended?

 

[MeisterR]

How do these stand up to the elements?

Generally speaking they aren't bad.
The damper tube black chromium is pretty tough, and been through as salt spray test under ASTM B117 standard for 120 hours with no rust.
That is why we choose that coating.

in UK, we offer a Anti-Rust Coat that we procure form a chemical specialist company.
This coat actually bond to metal creating a 3 micron thick barrier, but we don't have that in the USA at the moment.

Generally speak, I would suggest coating all metal to metal surfaces in a type of white lithium grease just to add a layer of protection.
But we have plenty of snow and salt in the UK and we haven't really had much problem.

Jerrick

 

[MeisterR]

Wait a sec, what is this MeisterR GT1, even though its a track coil, is it available for the Fiesta? Looks really good. I really like the cover is that only and option that can be added to all coil overs. Sorry if we pester and thank you for your replies. And following on a question from Hijinx. He mentions 205/45R17. Personally I run 215/45R17 in winter and would want the ride height back to stock. Not because of spring movement but to make sure the snow has room to escape and that I can go over a larger amount of snow (which is always more fun when there is more snow). The question I have is can these be risen back to stock height, I kinda see you start saying yes but not finishing the though, maybe in the rear I would need to reuse the stock spring. Would the rear damper be over extended?

It is actually not a track coil, but a custom build unit.
This GT1 uses all of our latest technology, including CNC piston and CNC seals, all assembled in house in our UK or USA workshop.
All the internal parts are manufactured in house at our UK workshop.

As far as those dust cover, those printed one are design for GT1 only.
We have blank one, but they aren't cheap (I think the are about £100 for the 4, but I need to check).
The reason they aren't cheap is because they aren't just cheap moulded parts, but actually impact resisted custom moulded cover that are design to withstand abuse.
That part came out of Black Art Design rally program, and they are design to protect the piston shaft to prolong damper service life.

They are twice the price at $1995, but they are worth every penny.
They also come with a lifetime warranty the long as the damper isn't physically damage.
As our CNC seals are design to not wear and not fail, unless something physically damage the seal it will literally work forever.

As they are custom build, we can actually spec the suspension to anything we like.
Rather it be a Roll Royce or a Race car on slicks, we have the ability to bespoke valve a dampers to suit the specific requirement.
I say the GT1 is like a ZetaCRD, except better at everything.
They are more comfortable, more responsive, more consistent, more durable... there are no drawback to the GT1, and that is what make it a "better" suspension.
We created the GT1 to compete with the likes of Ohlins DFV, it is a high par to aim but it seems I am giving them a pretty good fight.

Best Regards,

Jerrick

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Generally speaking they aren't bad.
The damper tube black chromium is pretty tough, and been through as salt spray test under ASTM B117 standard for 120 hours with no rust.
That is why we choose that coating.

in UK, we offer a Anti-Rust Coat that we procure form a chemical specialist company.
This coat actually bond to metal creating a 3 micron thick barrier, but we don't have that in the USA at the moment.

Generally speak, I would suggest coating all metal to metal surfaces in a type of white lithium grease just to add a layer of protection.
But we have plenty of snow and salt in the UK and we haven't really had much problem.

Jerrick

Have you ever been to Minnesota in the winter? It would need it trust me.

 

[MeisterR]

Have you ever been to Minnesota in the winter? It would need it trust me.

Lol... i had enough of the cold, which is why I am in Houston TX.

The north of Scotland isn't warm and sunny, but I can guess that Minnesota is another level.
It is probably 40cm Polish winter snow... so yea... loads of lithium grease if you ask me, especially all metal to metal contact.

I always suggest taking the bracket off and coating the inside of the lower bracket prior to installation, make life a lot easier later.

Jerrick